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  Jamming For Peace
Mon, Jun 22, 2009 • 08:06 AM CDT - By raf

Jamming For PeaceBack in April, I received an e-mail from Joud asking me if Kompoz would like to help faciliate an online collaboration CD project promoting peace.  Joud's organization, Jamming For Peace, is an international organization that aims to promote a cultural dialogue that facilitates peace and understanding through music. Their stated mission is to "brining together musicians from all over the world to collaborate to create a CD dedicated to spreading this message of humanity."

Joud has created a Kompoz Group to discuss the project.  If you're interested in getting involved, auditions are due before August 2009.  You can get more information on the Jamming For Peace Website, or post your questions on the Kompoz Group.  


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bjorn
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 08:12 AM CDT

I'm in.
   
spindizzy
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 08:27 AM CDT

Me too.
   
spindizzy
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 08:31 AM CDT

Anyone know how we can do this. On their site I see a lot about auditions and YouTube. I would be willing to start a project for the CD and invite folks to help. I am thinking of calling mine "Make Funk Not War" and go old school funky yet again. Just not sure what the YouTube and audition thing is all about...if it's music they want they came to the right group!
   
Jkashgari
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 08:37 AM CDT

Hello everyone, sorry if the application process is not clear, I have been telling my partner to update the blog for a while now but she is a bit busy with all their projects in Palestine, I suppose. :) I thought I had sent Raf Fiol the instructions as well, but I guess not.


Basically, to be a part of Jamming for Peace, you need to audition because we want to have a clear idea of who is participating in the project. Its a formality really (since we looking for all forms of help), but its necessary so we can be organized.


In any case, here are the exact instructions from the document I have been forwarding around the internet (please send me an e-mail at Jkashgari@gmail.com so I can send you the e-mail if you wish to forward it to your friends):





Please follow all instructions as thoroughly as possible and e-mail your completed application to both Jkashgari@gmail.com and lalzaroo@googlemail.com.








1. Please provide biographical information about yourself, including but not limited to:





Name:


Date of Birth:


Age:


Nationality:


E-mail:








2. Please write a short (200 words, + or – 50 words maximum) summary of why you are interested in working on this project.








3. Please submit a 5-10 minute (+ or – 1 minute) video audition showcasing your musical talents. If it is inconveniently difficult to upload a video for you, it is fine to only submit an purely audio audition. What you play can be your own composition(s) or a cover. You must either upload it to www.youtube.com and include a link to your video in this application or include it as an attachment when you e-mail this application to us.





The deadline is August 1st, 2009. Good luck.








   
Jkashgari
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 08:39 AM CDT

Oh yes, I forgot, if you have facebook, feel free to join our group:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=114196091010
   
Bottom_End
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 10:59 AM CDT

What's the pay scale?
   
billy
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 11:01 AM CDT

Sorry, I'm a Neanderthal... but my reaction to the "application" is.. are you serious?
I also would repeat the above question..
What's the pay scale?
   
rcassent
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 11:13 AM CDT

Do we need to do 1099 form? what about green card?
   
billy
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 11:21 AM CDT

Passport in triplicate and sworn affidavit from local post office that you are real person. Original birth certificate also acceptable unless you are a minor.
   
rcassent
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 11:29 AM CDT

@billy :) LMAO

Do i need to check with Homeland Security office? How about Retina Eye Scan?
I do have all of the above documentation certifying that i am truley Raja Nerk from Pakistan. will this get me in the mix on Citar?
   
Jkashgari
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 11:32 AM CDT

As much as I appreciate the jokes, this isn't as difficult as you're making it out to be. We've already received applications from students in Nigeria, Nepal and Indonesia. Surely you guys can handle it too?





Besides, you have to understand that this project is being run by two people who don't even live in the same countries and are full time students. Bear with our silly demands for organization, since we have busy lives and the British Council demands it of us. We want to give everyone an equal chance to show us what they can do, and we don't want to sift through dozens of videos to do that. Just keep everything in your application short and sweet, its really not a big deal.





Auditioning is necessary because we want to ensure a broad mixture of people are participating in the project. This is because, again, we have a limit of how many musicians can participate, for practical reasons.





As for pay, we don't think the project can handle paying the musicians, since my partner and I aren't getting paid either and our capital is quite fixed. We're doing this as volunteers/social activists, and the musicians who would apply would be volunteers. The money we get from the British Council is to pay for expenses of the project (studios, manufacturing, etc.). Though we will be using CD profits for humanitarian purposes (donating to NGOs) and/or to bring you guys physically together for a real concert, I can't say we will be able to offer you much more than publicity, unfortunately, unless we manage to scrape enough money together to actually be able to break even and be able to continue supporting the project in the future.





This will probably turn a whole lot of you off unfortunately, I suppose. Oh well. :(
   
raf
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 11:38 AM CDT

Hey guys, they're trying to do something good, with no financial motivation, and attempting to provide structure to the process. Let's give 'em a break.
   
spindizzy
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 11:52 AM CDT

I agree with Raf that you should give this a reasonable level of consideration. They have their way and it is thier effort. If you can't do it or don't feel comfortable with all some aspects don't do it. No one here will care.

There are some though in our community who will be very happy to do whatever they need to and this will be just fine for them. Let's not shoot it down just because it isn't for us and support it in spirit if you cannot participate in some other more tangible way.

It's for peace and last I knew peace was still...good!
   
Emmett
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 12:03 PM CDT

Kudos to the sentiment and the effort!

I'm just not keen on government involvement of any kind. Those are the entities that have done the most to hamper peace throughout history.
   
billy
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 12:31 PM CDT

I'm sure the intentions are the best. And jokes and sarcasm aside, it sounds like an admirable project. BUT to apply to play on someone's project for free? And not to be too much of a curmudgeon, but what kind of assurances do we have that the money will actually be spent as promised?
I know that sounds sacrilegious but I find it necessary to be wary of altruism on the internet.
To reveal even more of my stupidity.. what is an NGO? Am I supposed to know that?

OK.. so I'm just a jerk who doesn't like to "apply" to play music..
I find the "mission" admirable but the project lacks concrete information about how this will be achieved.

"We are a non-profit organization that promotes dialogue between people through music in the hopes of achieving some form of peaceful co-existance between countries, religions, and cultures.

who is "We"?
Any other projects you've done?
"SOME form of peaceful..."?
do you have anything specific in mind?
The words sound good but the process is very vague.
Yes, perhaps my concerns will be seen as unreasonable.. I wish you nothing but success.
   
Emmett
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 12:37 PM CDT

NGO stands for Non-Governmental Organization. In some cases, this is an accurate representation. In others, however, they are non-governmental in name only.
   
bjorn
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 12:40 PM CDT

I'm still in. The "audition" may - if nothing else - make me put together a musical "resume", and I consider that fun :). The cause seems worthy, the "sponsors" seem legitimate ( except maybe that "Kompoz" entity ). We did the RPM challenge for absolutely no reason other than showing that we could. This seems much better in my opinion.

Rock On

B
   
bjorn
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 01:00 PM CDT

... and just to not shoot myself in the foot :), I know nothing about Jamming for Peace, The British Council or Global Changemakers other than what their websites say. I am a trusting soul :)
   
rcassent
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 01:17 PM CDT

as billy stated "Im sure the project has good intentions and please be amused by our SNL comments as if you post a blog on Kompoz no matter what the intentions are, we will rock you with comments! No offence ment.

As far as your requirments for JFP, a little much for myself and others and we are not the college student type on college break for the summer. I am sure a few people will contribute but when i can contribute without filling out documentation, audtion tapes, resume, workshops, and what ever else, i will be happy to contribute. I dont recall the RPM having this many requirements.
not trying to shoot it down Spin!

Thanks and good luck!
   
spindizzy
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 01:29 PM CDT

Wow. When did this become about me. Just was trying to suggest someone here might go for it...won't be me as I don't have time to fool with all the steps...got my own crisis to deal with.

I will re-phrase. Do it if you want. Don't if you don't. I won't be doing it.

Spin
   
spindizzy
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 01:30 PM CDT

But since it is about me I demand world peace immediately! I also would like a small summer home near the ocean and all the time to play my guitar I can fit in between naps on the beach.
   
rcassent
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 01:37 PM CDT

spin, i grant you world peace! nothing butt kLowns island in the Artic Ocean!
   
spindizzy
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 01:40 PM CDT

Where Kooool is King!
   
rcassent
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 02:12 PM CDT

kLown kOol Atric Funk
   
billy
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 03:58 PM CDT

this is the kind of dialogue among musicians that I understand!
Funky Igloos on the Island
   
spindizzy
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 04:18 PM CDT

Happy Feet the Spindizzy way.
   
dogbizkits
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 06:08 PM CDT

Another admirable idea - just like RPM. However, I don't think I would have participated in RPM if there was a "requirement" for more data about me than was necessary. A name, country of origin and an optional few words from a contributer would be sufficient. I can't see how peace and understanding through music needs anything other than a the ability to play a musical instrument and to spend some time freely on a good cause. Trust me, asking for this "extra" data HAS actually backfired.
   
billy
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 06:17 PM CDT

We know enuf about you already Rab!
   
dogbizkits
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 06:19 PM CDT

Oh oh... you seen me on world's most wanted (for crimes against music) !!! Better find myself another island.
   
LittleLisa
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 06:43 PM CDT

I would LOVE to help out if I can. ^_^

However, I am unsure why you would need a video of the musicians for a compilation CD - I suppose I could download moviemaker again...

If the deadline is Aug. 1st for the auditions, I assume that the actual working/ composing (kompozing) wont be taking place until down the road?
   
RB
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 07:35 PM CDT

Raf, you could proffer a Kompoz member's profile serve the purpose of the audition requirement.

I have no intention of participating as I believe Kompoz already promotes "a cultural dialogue that facilitates peace and understanding through music".
   
dogbizkits
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 07:38 PM CDT

Yes indeed.
   
rcassent
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 08:21 PM CDT

Someone buy RB a virtual drink on me!
   
spindizzy
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 08:33 PM CDT

Make that a double! On me.
   
MDK
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 09:00 PM CDT

It does seem a little strange to be asking for a bunch of info. I guess a lot of us are used to the concept of open and free collaboration, without any application, audition or date of birth.

You start a project, ask for people to be creative, then pick the best parts of it. Seems like that is what we did on the RPM project. Nobody asked for my date of birth. I am not sure I want to reveal that I'm 48 years old.





DOH!
   
nemonty
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 09:12 PM CDT

Man......what I would give to be 48!.......maybe my passport number.......combination to my gun locker........
   
MDK
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 09:33 PM CDT

All jokes aside... I'm thinking that buying a video camera and video software, and writing a 200-word summary really could stifle my creativity. I'm a musician, not a videographer/journalist.

I guess it is that I do not understand these requirements and how they apply to musicianship.

I am interested, but do not have the means to meet the requirements for entry to this project.
   
nemonty
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 10:12 PM CDT

I'm not really interested in political agendas as it stiffles my creative juices. If you want information.....please go to SUN SYSTEMS, they seem to cater to countries that have the need to sensor free speech and personal information. (I probably should not have posted this, but I did two tours in Vietnam, so sue me if I play to long.....Steely Dan).
   
Echostone
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 10:23 PM CDT

why not ask for my SSN while you're at it. I mean i usually fall for the gimmicks like when I bought a lottery ticket and the cashier asked for my Bank account info. I mean he looked like a really cool guy and I thought the misses had used the account to buy a lot of new stuff that somehow I never saw. hmmmm lol JK
   
LittleLisa
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 11:26 PM CDT

I guess people, along with me, are wondering why we need to upload a video audition for a CD about inspiring peace. Is that part of the requirement from the British Council or for personal organizational purposes?

I think most the musicians here would have been more comfortable with a creative process where musicians team together and create music or ideas for the project and the songs that best fit the CDs vision get the honor to be on it.

I understand it must take a lot of patience and work to create a project like this. So I respect the audition process although, I don't fully understand it. ^_^

   
Lonnie
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 11:29 PM CDT

Rick I was thinking that exactly. Kompoz has been "brining together musicians from all over the world to collaborate to create a CD dedicated to spreading this message of humanity" for a couple of years now. I have brothers in many countries because of what we've accomplished right here. Start with the face in the mirror... mmm there's me .... there's Bjorn.... there's fuzz... theres Pascal, Avi, Enrico.

The thought of posting a video of myself on You-Tube is downright revolting.

There was a vague promise of bringing all the collaborators together for a concert, if that actually happened all the rest of it might be worth it, but we'd need to hash out the agreement which usually takes at least a few weeks in here, if past Kompoz contests are a good indicator.
   
bjorn
  Mon, Jun 22, 2009 @ 11:38 PM CDT

Call me naive :), I submitted an application and will let you know what happens. I have deputized myself as a Kompoz Scout in The Quest For Information. I made a cardboard badge, which gets me into movies without paying.
   
LittleLisa
  Tue, Jun 23, 2009 @ 12:15 AM CDT

Hehe. I also submitted an application - would LOVE to work on this project...but I feel a little embarrassed because the only video I had of myself was singing backup last year in small town Iowa's 4th of July talent show. ^_^ I hope I get in with that tape...Otherwise, they'll just have a good laugh at me :(
   
spindizzy
  Tue, Jun 23, 2009 @ 06:23 AM CDT

Maybe I should just send them my angry kLown video and see how they react to that.
   
johnnybebad
  Tue, Jun 23, 2009 @ 07:19 AM CDT

maybe its a way of gathering live video and other informative information for presentation purposes for future advertisement. I don't see anything wrong with it as long as you are clothed. Also this will help prevent another boring power point presentation that has always made me fall asleep. :)
   
RB
  Tue, Jun 23, 2009 @ 03:21 PM CDT

Yes, the Klown video! It's brilliant. There's nothing better than a maniacal, smoking klown to stir up nightmares.
   
spindizzy
  Tue, Jun 23, 2009 @ 03:26 PM CDT

Once they see the ultimate weapon, boring rants by a half drunk kLown, they will run trembling and drop thier borders and declare one human nation under da funk! Or piss on my red shoes...either way is good.
   
Lonnie
  Tue, Jun 23, 2009 @ 05:36 PM CDT

Deputy Naive sounds like a good bandname Bjorn. Where do I get deputized?
   
bjorn
  Tue, Jun 23, 2009 @ 10:48 PM CDT

@Spin: think positive; is the kLown half drunk or half sober?

@Lonnie: just repeat after me - in God and those who seem to have a worthy cause we trust
   
ericlives
  Sat, Jun 27, 2009 @ 02:20 AM CDT

hmmmmmmm.
   
ericlives
  Sun, Jun 28, 2009 @ 11:24 AM CDT

yes let me know when you have a basis for which I can add my stuff...
   
Lubna   Sun, Jun 28, 2009 @ 02:06 PM CDT

Hey Guys, My name is Lubna, I'm one of the founders or this project along with Joud. We participated in Global Changemakers togethere and found this project..... you guys have a lot of questions some of them rude and insulting. First we will be sending out a contact soon. Through that contact you can make sure of our Authentaty. When we send it out you can email it and ask for a stamped letter from the British Council if you want. The reason we need information and auditions is because we can't accept people in the program without knowing who they are, part of it is because of course the BC wants these information as to moniter our programs progress, and we can't just send them usernames and tell them these are our participants. After all they are funding this. Second we need it for organizational stuff after all this information will go on the CD, again we can't put nicknames and vague information on it.
Why we need an Essey????
its basically to know about why your intersted in this, i mean we have a right to don't we. Secondly, we are hoping at some point if the project succeeds, to do a concert some place, an we need to know more about you to be able to do that.
I'm sorry if some of you feel that its "stiffling your creativity", its honestly not my problem.
Why we prefer a youtube audition?
Its not about how you look, we just need to know if you are the ones doing it not someone else. Also we can't judge people based on their appearences, I'm a Palestinian a lot of people don't like how i look. You probably will see that on my profile it says Israel, i'm not an Israeli, i'm from palestine, from the West Bank (which explains why i spell words wrong), but for some reason this website doesn't have that as an option, therefore i can't put it. I will no doubt be sending the manager of this website a compalaint about that.
   
ericlives
  Sun, Jun 28, 2009 @ 07:08 PM CDT



hmmmm again....
   
MUD
  Sun, Jun 28, 2009 @ 09:32 PM CDT

I dont get it, if people dont like the process, dont contribute. Heres an idea - If you think you know better, why dont you offer to lend a hand or share some "constructive" ctiritism. Better still - actually read the posts. You dont have to submit video ( I noticed some conveniently skipped over reading this part) and you dont have to give out your deepest darkest secrets to enter as some of you have insinuated. Yes, your comments were rude. I wasnt going to say anything but I felt someone should come to the defence of the organizers.
On another note - I dont enter Kompoz competitions for my own personal reasons but I wouldnt dream of making snide remarks in forums about it.

   
ericlives
  Sun, Jun 28, 2009 @ 09:48 PM CDT

I would play but won't provide any more about myself than is already out on the public domain, which is, in effect, everything theyv'e asked for already. No harshness, no hard feelings, just peaceful feelings....
   
Lubna   Sun, Jun 28, 2009 @ 10:36 PM CDT

Yes you are frank, but i'm used to it. If you think you can upset me though you are wrong. I can only get upset about more serious stuff. I'm descrimnated against all my life, and i watch my people suffer everyday, so nothing you say or do can affect me.
Dude, its not like we are asking you to tell us your life information. It's just general information. What are you so worried about????
If the information we need is on the public domain, then i don't see what the problem is, since you've already shared it with probably thousands. The BC have no hidden agenda's, they are leaving us to do this project as we like, and accept who ever we like. We just have a responsibily to report to them the progress of the project, and providing them with names and information about whos is working in it is essentail. They have every right to ask for this. Also they probably need the information as proof that we aren't just inventing people to just finish our commitment to a community action project. Oh by the way, if you asked for a CV from our supervisor i'm sure she wouldn't mind, she has nothing to hide.
   
bjorn
  Mon, Jun 29, 2009 @ 01:15 AM CDT

As was stated before, there is actually not much personal information you have to give in the application and the video is indeed optional. None of this bothers me.

Lubna, I think perhaps something to think about for your next time around doing this is that when you address a group of people who know little or nothing about your project, these things could be explained more in detail (like you have done now). Many people are careful and suspicous about giving information on the internet. Your explanation makes sense, i.e. if you get funding, the "sponsor" wants to know that you are not just taking the money and making people up. You could use that already in your first presentation of the project, and I think people will be more at ease.

Rock On

B
   
gabrielaj   Mon, Jun 29, 2009 @ 08:40 AM CDT

Hi everyone,

I am Gabriela Jaeger and I work for the Global Changemakers Programme, who is backing up the Jamming for Peace Initiative. I understand the concerns you have about sharing personal information, but I honestly consider the information you have been asked to provide is not unreasonable as we wold like to know who are the people collaborating on this project. However it is up to you to decide if you feel comfortable doing so.

For further information about the programme please visit our website:
www.global-changemakers.net


   
ericlives
  Mon, Jun 29, 2009 @ 11:23 PM CDT


Here's an example of an online resume for just such an occasion.....

http://us.music-jobs.com/profile.php?uid=828502
   

 

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