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  Kompoz Labs: A Peek at Our New Audio Player
Wed, Aug 17, 2011 • 02:33 AM UTC - By raf

Kompoz Audio PlayerWe've been working on a new Kompoz track audio player.  It's not quite finished yet, but it's getting pretty close. And we'd like for you guys to have a look.

The new audio player will be the central focus of the track details page.  You'll be able to click on any part of the audio waveform, and jump to any part of the track visually.  The playhead will move over the waveform as the track sound plays.  And as you move your mouse over the player, it will show you the playback time under your mouse.  

You can try it now.  Just add "&beta=true" to any track URL.  For example:

www.kompoz.com/compose-collaborate/home.track.project?trackId=144952&beta=true

You'll also see a "share" button on the player itself, so that you can easily embed your tracks in other sites.  

We'll be rolling this out soon to all track pages, but we still have some work to do.  Specifically, we'll be adding buttons so that listeners to get information on the project and track owner.  And sometime this quarter, we'll be adding a feature so that you can drop markers and/or comments at specific points along the timeline.

Tell us what you think.




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Phoephus
  Phoephus on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 03:00 AM UTC

This is awesome! Thanks Raf!
   
AliceLeonz
  AliceLeonz on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 03:10 AM UTC

This is very awesome Raf...thank you...thank you...thank you...
   
DroobyDoobyDoo
  DroobyDoobyDoo on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 03:13 AM UTC

Very Cool Raf! The "markers" & "comments" feature will come in very handy! ;o)
   
MarkAlanDooley
  MarkAlanDooley on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 03:18 AM UTC

how about psychedelic visualizer options?
   
dazzlefly
  dazzlefly on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 03:19 AM UTC

woo hoo!!!!
Can't wait....thank you sooo much Raf!!
   
UkuleleJim
  UkuleleJim on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 03:23 AM UTC

I think this is brilliant! Nice work.
   
Astronut
  Astronut on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 03:29 AM UTC

Looking good! I am filled with antici...
   
Brannon
  Brannon on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 03:38 AM UTC

I will wait for Ben to comment. I will base my reaction on his.

(secretly, I think its awesome)
   
Lonnie
  Lonnie on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 03:38 AM UTC

I can finally point out where Brannon slurps his coffee in the middle of the song!

Hmmm ... drop the player into the comments of an idea track and point to a spot and say "what do you think about noseflute right HERE?".... hmmmmm
   
Breathtax
  Breathtax on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 03:50 AM UTC

Ha ha...I think Brannon's let out a bit of pee.....I secretly don't want to believe its actaully happening!..well i think it could be the biggest thing since I don't know when...assuming it goes to plan...great job. it seems being a PITA pays off sometimes..well....part of a combined pain in a massive arse. :)
   
JimCavanaugh
  JimCavanaugh on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 06:03 AM UTC

Raf, thanks for this great upgrade! What's the word I'm looking for?...awesome, marvelous, spectacular, splendid? Nah. One word does not do it justice. I'm just gonna call it Komtastic-Pozalicious-Sangertation-Rafamundo!...and fantastic.
   
MHenebury
  MHenebury on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 06:31 AM UTC

A massive improvement and it'll be another great feature of the site.

If it did have the 'marker' & 'comments' functions it would be up with the BEST type of imbedded player out there.

I do have some idea of how much extra work that would be and think your programming is amazing, but it would save you going back to it in 1yr - 18months when every other competitor site has that level of functionality.
   
minime
  minime on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 07:54 AM UTC

Wow !!! THIS LOOKS SUPER DUPER MEGA HYPER GOOD !!!
This thing with the comments on specific parts of the time line is really really cool and very usefull !
   
HeroBass
  HeroBass on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 08:54 AM UTC

hoooooray!
it makes me wanna post a track just to play with it!
Tooltip with the exact time on the waveform is already a great improvement. Can't wait for the marker&comments :)
   
phraser
  phraser on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 10:03 AM UTC

I can smell the new packaging:)
   
rollingthunder
  rollingthunder on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 03:28 PM UTC

I like this quite a bit - this will really enhance commenting on tracks as projects progress.

Some initial feedback:

I like the compressed view with the "more" link to expand - I love anything that saves me from having to scroll.

One thing I noticed was that I had to hit play before I would see the track playback time and could click on the track to jump to a point in the song. I could hit play, then pause, and anytime after that initial play, see the playback time and jump around, but not before an initial play. Even after hitting stop, this worked. It might be nice to make that available before having to play, esp when you have comments and people want to jump right to a point in the tune.

Personally, I prefer dropdown option lists to buttons in a GUI as it makes it less cluttered, so the replacement of the "Track" dropdown with buttons isn't my favorite, but that's just my opinion. :)

For the futures list, it would also be a nice feature to be able to click/drag the mouse over the track like you can when you go into solo mode on a track in logic, say - sorta like moving the tape across the playback head (oh my, well, that dates me...) so you can find a specific spot easily. I suppose that's a lot more work than is necessary, but I tried it and figured I'd mention it.
   
Astronut
  Astronut on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 03:31 PM UTC

Good points, Bill...although I glazed over after the word "quite."

j/k
   
rollingthunder
  rollingthunder on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 03:35 PM UTC

no prob, r2 - we know all drummers suffer adhd...
   
Phoephus
  Phoephus on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 04:03 PM UTC

If there was a way we could jump to a certain point in Bill's comment without having to read, that would be a nice feature:)
   
sanger
  sanger on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 04:14 PM UTC

"hey Bill, what time is it?"

Bill: "Well, the word clock (from the Latin word clocca, "bell"), which gradually supersedes "horologe", suggests that it was the sound of bells which also characterized the prototype mechanical clocks that appeared during the 13th century in Europe.... blah, blah, blah....."

   
Astronut
  Astronut on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 04:21 PM UTC

hahaha! That's what friends are for... >:D
   
rollingthunder
  rollingthunder on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 04:29 PM UTC

sadly, that's a fair depiction of me...although when talking to Steve, it more often was along the lines of "this is a can of beer - you don't need a bottle opener, and here's why." :D
   
sanger
  sanger on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 04:33 PM UTC

Bill taught me well...... me like cans
   
rcassent
  rcassent on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 04:40 PM UTC

I will wait for Brannon to comment. I will base my reaction on his now that Ben has commented.

(secretly, I think MDK Spotlight is awesome and if MDK likes the new player, i will like it too!)
   
raf
  raf on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 06:05 PM UTC

@RollingThunder, who said
"...One thing I noticed was that I had to hit play before I would see the track playback time and could click on the track to jump to a point in the song..."

There's a reason for that. It's mainly a technical issue with the fact that the player does not know the audio length (time) until it has loaded it. And I don't attempt to pre-load the audio when the page is first loaded, because that would potentially chew up bandwidth (which means $$$). In fact, with MP3s, the player does not know the exact length (time) of the track until it's 100% loaded (although it does a good job of estimating it once the buffering has started).

One way around this is for the system to determine the actual audio length once, and then storing that value. I can potentially do this when the track is first loaded. I will look into this as a solution.
   
rollingthunder
  rollingthunder on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 06:10 PM UTC

Ah - yep: I see that the loading bar status doesn't progress on page load - only on hitting play. Makes sense - and yeah, auto downloading for the page load isn't sensible.
   
bjorn
  bjorn on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 06:18 PM UTC

This is damn good. Period.

I think if it could autotune me, snap me to a humanized grid and make a cappuchino, it will be the pinnacle of the Kollaboration Evolution. Don't implement those please :)

Lonnie is serious about the nose flute, I bet many of you thought it was a joke.
   
VRun
  VRun on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 @ 07:07 PM UTC

this is really good.
   
raf
  raf on Thu, Aug 18, 2011 @ 02:23 AM UTC

UPDATE: You will notice that all new tracks uploaded after today will have a new waveform. Instead of green, they will now be blue. There's a method to my madness... we are working on a site facelift (dare I say, "re-design").

Here's an Example
   
shadowself
  shadowself on Thu, Aug 18, 2011 @ 02:32 AM UTC

Great stuff! I am looking forward to the finished product.
   
Brannon
  Brannon on Thu, Aug 18, 2011 @ 02:36 AM UTC

I'm confused. When did Ben request a red-design? Did I miss something?
   
bjorn
  bjorn on Thu, Aug 18, 2011 @ 03:04 AM UTC

A red E-sign. He mentioned it to Raf in the line for mocha-latte-frappuchetti-with-a-grapefruit-twist at Starbucks.
   
Filgood
  Filgood on Thu, Aug 18, 2011 @ 08:47 AM UTC

good BUT ... nothing on my Iphone 3GS... normal ?
   
MattChristensen
  MattChristensen on Thu, Aug 18, 2011 @ 12:30 PM UTC

Amazing Raf. I can't wait till we can tag the timeline. This is a huge improvement to KOMPOZ. GREAT JOB!!!!!
   
kompoz
  kompoz on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 @ 02:32 AM UTC

It's live! Markers and in-line comments not there yet, but in the works.
   
Brannon
  Brannon on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 @ 02:41 AM UTC

and its just awesome. I really like the big kompoz logo behind the waveform. . .says it loud and proud.

and I'll be dang if you didn't sneak in new staff picks on the front page. The hits just keep comin'
   
leesharp
  leesharp on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 @ 03:00 AM UTC

I like a lot. Not knowing anything about how hard this kind of thing is to do, is there any chance of a repeat button??
   
leesharp
  leesharp on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 @ 03:03 AM UTC

I see you can click the time line to where you want it to start also, very nice touch.
   
MattChristensen
  MattChristensen on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 @ 04:06 AM UTC

Is it just me or did anyone else think the blue waveform looked cool as hell?

I wonder that top of the page player will get a facelift. This update keeps Kompoz feeling fresh I love it.
   
Brannon
  Brannon on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 @ 04:46 AM UTC

New uploads are still blue,some remained green and others are gray. Is this a code or just my subjective reality?
   
Embers
  Embers on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 @ 06:05 AM UTC

Great improvement Raf. Bravo!
   
raf
  raf on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 @ 10:32 AM UTC

@Brannon - New uploads should all be blue. Uploads before yesterday will remain green. There should not be any grey, expect for the ones lost during the hard drive fail (they will be recovered soon).

@Matt - top-of-the-page player will be replaced eventually.

@leesharp - Repeat button is very do-able.

Thanks everyone!
   
leesharp
  leesharp on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 @ 10:46 AM UTC

That is brilliant Raf thankyou. I am just too lazy to open another player. Atleast then I can remain sitting on my garden bench in the sun listening to the same track to get more and more ideas / pick out the faults to improve on.
   
Brannon
  Brannon on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 @ 03:22 PM UTC

Most of my tracks are grey with the big kompoz logo behind the wave form. especially from older projects.
   
QuiteShy
  QuiteShy on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 @ 03:33 PM UTC

All I know is I clicked on a part I wanted to fast forward to and it went there. Just like my DAW does so I'm happy. Thanks
   
Brannon
  Brannon on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 @ 03:38 PM UTC

here's what my tracks uploaded before the crash look like.
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raf
  raf on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 @ 03:56 PM UTC

@Brannon -- Yep, all the old waveforms pre-crash are missing, so it shows the generic kompoz logo. We are still working with the data recovery firm, and hope to get all those old waveforms back. If not, then we'll regenerate them (something that we're trying to avoid!)
   
Brannon
  Brannon on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 @ 03:59 PM UTC

ah, I'm slow to catch on sometimes. The gray looks nice to me, so I thought it was a deliberate and permanent change.
   
rollingthunder
  rollingthunder on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 @ 04:49 PM UTC

I do wish the new player showed up in safari on the iPhone. I haven't checked the iPad yet.
   

 

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