Audiophobia Prog-Rock/Art Rock

Started by richardireland, © All Rights Reserved 2014

   
421698
Upload

 


Audiophobia re-worked first half Uploaded 5yr+1mo ago by richardireland



Mix   Accepted   audio/mpeg   12.30 MB   Engineering-Mixing   34 Plays   1 Downloads  

Download  
     

 

Comments

Login to Comment
comment.user.userName PLUS

richardireland   commented 5yr+1mo ago


Apart from a couple of mixing glitches, this is sounding much tighter and punchy, but still with some delicacy in the quieter bits. Again, no changes to the vocal mix, but they seem to own the central space and focus better, despite the levels needing work still. :)

comment.user.userName PLUS

ChrystalKafka   commented 5yr+1mo ago


Wooo...the new ending place, perhaps unintentional, is powerful! Maybe for the 6-minute version....?

comment.user.userName PLUS

ChrystalKafka   commented 5yr+1mo ago


I'm curious: can we take a head count of who is using Apple software?

comment.user.userName

Timbo61   commented 5yr+1mo ago


I'm using Logic Pro 9

comment.user.userName

Sylph   commented 5yr+1mo ago


Im just using silly Garageband (but its apple-woohoo;))

comment.user.userName PLUS

richardireland   commented 5yr+1mo ago


Cubase me, man and... much younger man - since the Atari ST days when it was black and white and midi only. I think the audio interface in use probably has as much to do with the sound coming out the other end. I use an Alesis Multimix, which is also a 8 track mixer. I wish they'd bring back the forums - there used to be a lot of helpful discussions on there where the technically endowed could tech us numpties!

comment.user.userName

Sylph   commented 5yr+1mo ago


I listened in a noisy airport with silly earphones. But will give it a proper lusten once Im in Florida. And then my Kompozers, im back on our game;)

comment.user.userName

thevoice   commented 5yr+1mo ago


Vocals could be a bit louder - especially at the beginning (from 1:48). Apart from that I like this arrangement/mix. Instruments as well as vocals blend well together.

comment.user.userName

TotalHarmonicDistortion   commented 5yr+1mo ago


I like this a lot! I agree thevoice that the vocals coming in at 1:48 are too quiet, but this is sounding great as far as being more open and allowing some room for the many voices to occupy.

comment.user.userName

EmptyGlass   commented 5yr+1mo ago


You mentioned in a previous comment that you are stubborn, Richard. I agree with that comment. You need to let go, more. I think you should upload the individual tracks, the music ones, so people can have a bash at mixing this. For me, your music tracks have too much reverb on, which is masking the song and masking the vocals and vice versa. Each individual music track you use, should have the frequencies cut, that are not used, nor have any musical context. But, left in, they mask other instruments. Watch this video, it's for a bass track, but applies to all tracks. 1st you should use your EQ plug in in analyze mode, to see where the energy is, then cut, various parts, in truth, just draw around the wave display. You should do this for every single track. Yes it takes time, but it really does help. Here is the link. http://youtu.be/IyB2OGtcK9g Your first mix for this song, IMO, is still the best version. You don't have to put every vocal track in it. For me, it is not a rock song anymore, it's like something out of a West end musical and therefore doesn't work. You are losing all the oomph, by having too many things going on. There are still too many instrumental sections, which are a bit self indulgent for me and would benefit from having vocals sang over them. I came up with some new vocal ideas, which I think some work very well, although the lyrics need work, but you seem to have dismissed them? Also if you could put your vocal track up, that would be helpful too. If you do what I ask, I will clean all the tracks for you and do a mix, with a new set of ears, so to speak. Musically, I know I won't get that right (cos I hate taking things out) but as for the vocals, the mix I do of them, will work. However, I will be taking a lot of voices out, purely and simply to get this song sounding like a rock song again. If you don't want me to do any of that, then obviously I won't.

comment.user.userName

TotalHarmonicDistortion   commented 5yr+1mo ago


I think that trying to make this song fit squarely and neatly into a genre is going to be a hard line to tow. It is progressive /art/experimental which by definition means that it hasve ry few rules to follow. I think that if Richard wants to post up the seps for you or anyone else to take a shot at mixing that would be great. Only for the sake of creating variety though. I would also like to point out that there are plenty of "West end musical" type rock groups that have done well. Queen and Meatloaf come to mind immediately. There is no correlation between what we are doing here and what they did back then, but it proves my point that music can't be so rigorously categorized.

comment.user.userName

EmptyGlass   commented 5yr+1mo ago


I am a massive Queen fan, Nathan. I've seen them 6 times live. We Will Rock You, the musical, is horrendous, no hardcore Queen fan likes it. This song is now becoming, like something from We Will Rock You. Which I know from chatting to Richard, on the phone, for great lengths of time, is not his vision for this song, nor mine. The reverb tails at the end section, for example, are too long, thus negating the punch of the guitar. Over all, the track, is just too muddy and lacks clarity and punch. Now, surely you can't deny that? That is the point I am trying to make. Bear in mind too, that Richard has asked for help. But a West end musical? Nah, I'd be out of here like a shot.

comment.user.userName PLUS

richardireland   commented 5yr+1mo ago


Hi everyone. I must apologise for being out of touch for the last couple of weeks - I've had a lot to deal with out in the real world! Plus I managed to kill Cubase, so I'm having to rebuild my DAW from scratch. When I've done that and it's stable, I'll start again on this, so please bare with me until then.