See This Through Prog-Rock/Art Rock

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TanaG   commented 5yr+8mo ago


Ok, so I threw a few effects on here while i was singing and left them there. This is only for reference because i don't see much else I can do than this. I have a lot of power in my voice but i don't necessarily think that "owning" a song equates to powering through it. The lyrics are being sung as a cry out to God so I did not want to sound angry in the song. Thats what Mika's raps were for. I feel the last delivery I gave was passionate but perhaps you would prefer a stronger chorus as in this sample. If that is what sounds better, I will need to find the sweet spot for delivering a more powerful vocal in my mic without overshooting into the red. Because Billy is pointing out that my ROOM is causing a problem when I am too far away from the mic. So that presents and issue for me until I can alleviate that in my set up. I would really like to finish this song asap so I can wrap my head around the other songs and retrack them. Thanks

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EdSilva   commented 5yr+8mo ago


Tana, I still think the delivery is weak for a powerful song. I don't think I am asking of you something you cannot do. Check out how you "own" the song at :15 in this track http://https://www.kompoz.com/music/collaboration/533703/file/535545 Hence these are two different styles of music, but the "attitude" transcends from one song to another. When you come in at :15 on the Funk song you dominate and make a statement. On this song, still sounds mechanical and unsure. And that is my opinion. You can do it whichever way you feel it should be, for me the delivery just does not go with Mika's rap and with the intensity of the song. I disagree with you that this is a ballad. This is a pretty hard hitting song. I think you are trying to make a ballad out of it and that is where the whole problem resides.

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TanaG   commented 5yr+8mo ago


Ed, you can't compare a funk/soul song with this. You just can't. The tempo and mood are completely different. The melody of this song does not leave room for much else. Where is there "weakness?" I would like others to please tell me as well. I am very open minded but i have not heard anyone else tell me where I am losing steam on this song. Honestly, i think the verses here in this sample sound too angsty and the delivery on the last mix is spot on for the verses. And thats fine about bringing in the strings. But that makes the song even MORE of a somber mood and leaning towards being an, albeit "power" ballad.

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EdSilva   commented 5yr+8mo ago


I know I cannot compare "styles", but I can compare confidence in the delivery... that is what I am trying to say...

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EdSilva   commented 5yr+8mo ago


I don't mind if we have two versions, but I need a version with Ken's strings.

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EdSilva   commented 5yr+8mo ago


Billy Can we please have a version where the "spacey" synth sits in by itself and sets the tone for Ken's strings? I really want to have a version like that. In here pretty much all of Ken's work is gone, and I had written it so that Ken could have his solo time, I just hate to strike it out of the song.

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sriracha   commented 5yr+8mo ago


I can do anything you want: his stuff is in there - it doesn't start until measure 32. I don't know why you can't hear his stuff: his strings start at measure 32. The violin comes in 8 measures later. You can *clearly* hear them here. Now - if there's more Ken parts and they aren't in the project files list, I really can't do much there. :D It's just a part of the song - not the lead track. If that's what you want I can make it so, but then why are we bothering with vocals, et. al.? The section I tacked in a lead on has NONE of his parts. As I noted in my original post, that was just a toss in that could be removed if not desired. Look - I sense some frustration on your part here, and it seems compounded by maybe not having a chance to read all the notes. I think your issues with the vocal performance are frankly off base - but it's your tune: you should get what you want on it and I've no issue with that. What's happening now, however is you're starting to butt heads with people: that's not healthy. There's one solution: better communication. I didn't say over-communicate - I said "better". Effective, focussed constructive communication is the only way to accomplish anything online if you care about what you are doing. I point this out not as someone frustrated, etc., but as someone who's been around this block several times and seen communication failure ruin a project like this. Everyone should settle down, take their meds; grab a burger; ice cream - whatever spanks their inner child and chill out for a bit, and then come back to things a little more cooled off and with perspective. If I've offended anyone, I apologize - I'm trying to inject a little levity into a situation that's fast going south for no reason I can clearly identify and also help people get back on the rails here. I'll pop up another mix with Ken's keys hotter in a few.

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fresh727   commented 5yr+8mo ago


Hot damn...I'm loving this especially the notes following the 1:53 mark!!! NICE!!! You go girl!!! now as far as the disconnect with visions amongst others I say we wrap this one up and get a great mix. Decide to disagree and let's move on to another tune! : )