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WillaWay / WillaWay Studio 1mo+18dy ago
Alright. I've had my fill. It would seem that I've had a hand in starting a major debate and diluted the integrity of the community page. I want to extend my apologies. I never thought a simple upload/idea would have such an outspread effect. Up until now Kompoz was an outlet of expression. A place where I could visit and listen to great music, chat with talented folks, learn, and become inspired to create. Now I feel like I'm being backed into a corner. Needing to be cautious of what I say and what I submit as to not offend anyone. This is a restriction on creativity. I know efforts have been made by some to make things less controversial but unfortunately, for me, they are being overshadowed. I am losing the desire to collaborate and I don't want to lose that drive. I'm at a crossroads........


     

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USAsongwriter   commented 1mo+18dy ago


Just continue working with those you know have no problem with the way you do things...I for one certainly don't. You don't owe ANYONE any apologies...they owe you an apology for judging your creative process with an holier than thou mentality. If anyone doesn't care for the way you do things...they should move along without dropping condescending comments as they pass by. You have a right to be here as much as anyone else. Anyone remarking in any way that the quality of your work is lacking simply because they have issue with your adaptive methods need to get over themselves. Technology is there for everyone...not just those who think its only OK if/when they need it. I'm for you and behind you. There should never even had been an issue...but someone always has to make themselves feel superior to another for whatever reason. There are plenty of folks on here who have no problem with the way you or anyone else decides to operate during the creative process. Most are only concerned with obtaining a great song in the end...not badgering, bullying, complaining or whatever about nonsense! I use Mixcraft too btw...exclusively...and LOVE IT :)

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WillaWay   commented 1mo+18dy ago


I appreciate the support and your open-mindedness. Thank you. Mixcraft is great:)

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spookyoblomov   commented 1mo+18dy ago


Don't worry too much, Willa. It shouldn't be a problem to discuss loops or anything like that, especially in a place like this. It's how it's debated, the tone, as is so often the case. "....and diluted the integrity of the community page..." Hmm, I think the community is responsible for itself. Everyone has it in the hand, whether it runs here shitty or nice. You could have been talking about pizza, someone will find someone to make a war out of it. Internet... is like the war on German highways. We've had a lot of that here. If you feel like it, get into the carnage, if not, just make music :-) Everything calms down again.

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WillaWay   commented 1mo+18dy ago


Thank you.

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DTSUK   commented 1mo+18dy ago


It's all good Willa. You have nothing to worry about, I'm sure the VAST majority of people, including me, have no issue with whatever medium folks choose to express themselves musically or otherwise. Let's face it - Loops are as much a part of music today as any other instrument. I'm just sorry that it was my project that initiated this whole thing! You must choose the direction here at your crossroads but I hope whichever road you choose you will not let this stop you moving forward with your music. Best wishes, Dave

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WillaWay   commented 1mo+18dy ago


Thank you.

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minime   commented 1mo+18dy ago


That thing is sad in a way ! You are an active member and you have own Projects and you play also on other peoples Projects ! That the debate about this all had a big effect on you as a person is not cool ! Active people like you are Kompoz and make this place a good place ! Like I have say before " Do your thing so like you want do and do not care about that what other may think or say ! What counts is that you are happy with the way you make your Music ! And look one time on all your Collaborations and all the people who have work with you ! They have do work with you because they liked your stuff and your way to do it ! And an apologies is from my look on all that from your side really not needed !

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WillaWay   commented 1mo+18dy ago


Thank you.

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Moosemind1   commented 1mo+17dy ago


aren't you just supposed to be you? who cares what the others think, be you! I did a project in 2012 on the very subject here. https://www.kompoz.com/music/collaboration/83665

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WillaWay   commented 1mo+17dy ago


Excellent advice. The song is something I needed to hear. Thanks!

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Moosemind1   commented 1mo+17dy ago


Glad it helps, Happy Holidays

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BigMuskie   commented 1mo+16dy ago


Listen man, let it roll off. I've been a drummer for over 40 years. I've had musicians come up to me and tell me I suck. I've had musicians come up to me and tell me I'm among the most elite they've seen. Both these kinds of people get the same answer from me, which is, "Can I buy you a drink?". I don't have time to try and please every single person's taste. I lay down some sh&$ and if they like it, cool. If not, tough turtles. I just joined Kompoz a few days ago. No message came up saying that I was obligated to work with Willa Way (Though I've taken some time to listen to some of your past projects and wouldn't mind at some point. Good stuff). If they like it, become a part of it. If not, move on. Just write a song about this situation and I'll join the collab to add my two cents. Keep doing what you're doing...

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WillaWay   commented 1mo+16dy ago


Thanks, man, I appreciate it. Sound advice, and a solid mentality. Awesome that you dig my work. I'd be glad to work with you on something in the future. Welcome to Kompoz!

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jjt   commented 1mo+16dy ago


As soon as Dude pops up again, I say we all endorse him for "Drama Queen."

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WillaWay   commented 1mo+16dy ago


Lol

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smg179   commented 1mo+16dy ago


hey jjt how ya like them apples..?

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jjt   commented 1mo+16dy ago


The fact that you're cowering behind a closed account says it all.

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smg179   commented 1mo+16dy ago


i'll let you two get back to huggin it out..lol talk about drama queens sheesh... im actually embarassed for two.. kinda throw up in my mouth a lil reading all your whinin dont mess with the bad..

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WillaWay   commented 1mo+16dy ago


jjt You couldn't be more correct.

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xd238   commented 1mo+16dy ago


If you exclude live jamming sites, this site has the greatest percentage of "live" musicians of all of the online sites. I don't know where else smg179 is gonna go to be honest... I myself, as primarily a singer/songwriter, was under contract in the 80's as a one-man industrial act who sang, played and programmed my own synth and drum parts. When that fell apart due to me sounding very much like an another now famous act that came up, I started in the formation of a live band with guitars and live drums that did some gigs. A decade later, I started picking up guitar and bass on my own, and did more live drumming on jam sessions and could have played out live as a drummer if I wanted to. Point being, "learn to play an instrument" .... ? If you are a songwriter/producer, there are more tools than ever to assist you without the need for live musicians in the tracking stage. One person, complaining on an online collab site, is not going to change this....don't let him bother you.

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smg179   commented 1mo+16dy ago


x.. lemme make it ez for ya im not complaining for the umpteenth time about using loops im complaining about the disclosure more specifically the lack of.. so i went to a few loop authors and asked them to take a look over here and give me their thoughts on the disclosure and use. and im sure you'll hear somthin soon enough about it i would imagine.. *peace

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xd238   commented 1mo+16dy ago


I doubt its gonna lead to much.. Unless it involves a major artist, or major hit, and a large enough amount of money to legally pursue it. I also used to work for a label...

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smg179   commented 1mo+16dy ago


mm how do you know i dont.? or if my brother is a loop artist mm.? or if my mom is a admin for artist development..? just a thought ..) peace

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xd238   commented 1mo+16dy ago


If you were well-connected, you probably would not be on this site. I used to be, but that was a long time ago....

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smg179   commented 1mo+16dy ago


x well i actually requested that if theres an upload thats a LOOP that we use the all important color code system and requested all loops be PINK in color maybe that will help us all know who is and who isnt loadin loops and which ones.. *peace

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xd238   commented 1mo+16dy ago


As I mentioned before, requiring a polygraph test before each upload is the best way.... But it seems there needs to be more...perhaps an authorized signature? Color codes would be pointless without these needed additions. I am sure Raf can whip this up right away. Why don't you put all of this in as a suggestion for K3?

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jjt   commented 1mo+16dy ago


Ooh, the mom card is in play!

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smg179   commented 1mo+16dy ago


jj please dont make me spank ya again.. why dont they just learn the first time ..? it just will get progressively worse for ya. but ok.. DUDE..lol..)

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jjt   commented 1mo+16dy ago


Seriously, you brought up your MOM?

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Moosemind1   commented 1mo+15dy ago


Chill, mom is an admin :D

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DTSUK   commented 1mo+16dy ago


At the risk of making myself a target.... I think maybe it's time that all concerned - the main protagonists and the people (including me) who have commented here, drew a line under this now? It's not serving any constructive purpose really, just leading to more possible conflict. We all have our own opinions - there's no right or wrong here. How about we all just agree to disagree and go back to making music whether with a voice, instrument or sampled source? Life's too short and it IS coming up to the season of goodwill to ALL men after all!

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smg179   commented 1mo+16dy ago


Dave happy holidays hey so this actually this is an A B conversation so C yer way outta it..lol peace bro

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DTSUK   commented 1mo+16dy ago


See that''s the trouble with singers, it's all about meeeeh, meeeeh, meeeeeeeeeeh.... I'll consider myself admonished and bid you all a farewell ;-)

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smg179   commented 1mo+16dy ago


peace love yer work always a fan here..)

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BigMuskie   commented 1mo+15dy ago


Word. Sound reasoning.