NoisyLingus / Fab - 6yr+1mo ago
I posted this video in Engineering & Recording section. I think we all should be aware and pay more attention to this.


     

9 people like this: Supersly, PilotProject, xterrabill, DocDaFunk, greerjeff, RayLucy, joeyalomar, MarkAlanDooley, liljoe6string

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raf   commented 6yr+1mo ago


Very interesting.

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NoisyLingus   commented 6yr+1mo ago


Isn't it ? The term "Dynamics" makes totally sense.

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greerjeff   commented 6yr+1mo ago


thanks Fab, insightful

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NoisyLingus   commented 6yr+1mo ago


No worries :)

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joeyalomar   commented 6yr+1mo ago


Playing for years, dynamics was an important part in live sound. Unfortunately my hearing was beaten up end badly and I have trouble with hi end. I try to compensate by keeping the hi end very low in a mix or a sep and mainly try to express my ideas in the arrangement. Does it make sense to filter uploads during the upload process, through a meter like the one being used in this video?

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NoisyLingus   commented 6yr+1mo ago


Can you develop a bit more ? I'm not sure that I understand correctly what you mean.

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joeyalomar   commented 6yr+1mo ago


During the three step process of uploading a track, where it's converting your upload to be used on Kompoz, add a fourth step to send the audio through a loudness meter.

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NoisyLingus   commented 6yr+1mo ago


Yes, it could be interesting to normalize the volume songs through the player.

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RayLucy   commented 6yr+1mo ago


thought i'd share a previous post that relates to this.. http://https://www.kompoz.com/music/community/a/463191#comment491374

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NoisyLingus   commented 6yr+1mo ago


I saw it too : excellent summary.

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dogbizkits   commented 6yr+1mo ago


Here in the UK we've heard a much better balance of levels between programme material and the commercials since the adoption of R128 (BS1770). We don't have to rush for our remote controls and turn down the level when the ads come on. Working to the European broadcasting peak normalisation standard means that even we Kompoz members can take advantage of this when our material gets air-play. It's an even playing field now; in fact (as in the Michael Jackson / Green Day example), good dynamics wins and hyper compressed 'loud' tracks are penalised during broadcast. Bear that in mind. Also, if you want something loud, just turn up the volume control. I think EBU have a pretty close deadline to have this standard adopted. I'll come back with more info on that deadline shortly.

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ReggieB   commented 6yr+1mo ago


great post,thanks for sharing

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dogbizkits   commented 6yr+1mo ago


Many mixes are 'optimised' for iTunes - i.e., one specific mix (with some technical trade-offs) to make sure the material [song] will sound reasonably good for the consumer. Other mixes can be made hyper-compressed or dynamically adjusted to be 'loud' for a CD version - OR another mix made to the R128 broadcast standard. The method chosen will depend on which market the 'product' is being aimed at. Working backwards from where a current 'loud' masterd track is given to iTunes to 'optimise' will just wreck the dynamics in any case, so it's better to provide iTunes with the right material in the first place - and tell them when submitting material that they're receiving an R128 file (if that's indeed what you're sending them). Their encoding will make sure the 'product' isn't damaged to geater extent than what a 'loud' mastered file would be. Remember the magic number -23 LUFS. I'd suspect that iTunes are using a file processing alorithm which works in a peak normalizing way (possibly similar to how R128 works), but I'm afraid I don't know the technical spec of their algorithm so couldn't give a definitive answer.

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NoisyLingus   commented 6yr+1mo ago


Whoa, you're a real well of sciences ! Thanks you very much for the explanations.

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Supersly   commented 6yr+1mo ago


Well done. Excellent video