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PolarBear / Ken Swanson 1mo+13dy ago
I've been fighting a partial, intermittent shorting out, on my electric guitar, for longer than I want to acknowledge. What is it? The cord, or the selector switch on the guitar, or the one of the switches on the amp? Round & round .. finally, it has got unbearable to the point that I was going to tear apart the amp, from the back to get at the switches, from the back side .. but before that, per chance, I pulled off the main volume switch cap, .. and there was a dust cootie, the size of a pinhead, on the switch stem .. and wiping that away, has cleared up the shorting out, completely.


     

3 people like this: aliceminguez, xterrabill, LazyFrank

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PaulM44   commented 1mo+13dy ago


I would start with getting a new cord---it worked for me. It is a lot cheaper in expense and time if it works than the alternatives and you probably need a backup cord anyway.

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xterrabill   commented 1mo+13dy ago


a can of compressed air and a half hour can do wonders, I try and do the maintenance on all my stuff at least every other year. in fact my studio is completely disassembled at the moment, but I also clean all the contacts on every patchcord, patchbay, all the receptacles (not 110V), even those inside my mixer board and rack gear with contact cleaner. pots I leave alone till there is an issue. it sucks, its a lot of work, but I have had the stuff for a long time, some for 30 years and its all still working. btw I clean all this with a vacuum first and small soft paint brush (sometimes before and after) and contact cleaner on q=tips or small paper towels meticulously, I use a electrostatic mat and grounded anti static wristband.

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PolarBear   commented 1mo+13dy ago


mhmm, I like your idea of preventative maintenance. I had just done a sweep across behind the switches, on the amp, with canned air, a couple of minutes, before .. but, not effective enough, apparently. On my mixing boards, I cover them with a piece of thick film plastic, .. or, in another case, gift foil wrap, when not in use. A long time ago, I was messing around with my stereo amp, and had that apart .. I was amazed at the dust cootie that collected at .. again, the main volume switch. Maybe there's magnetism, at the switch, that draws dust, to the worst possible place?

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xterrabill   commented 1mo+13dy ago


you hit it on the head, yes there is always a magnetism or corona associated with electric current, also anything with a fan in it will have those dust bunnies reproducing overtime!

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xterrabill   commented 1mo+13dy ago


I even take my TV apart and vacuum it out once every few years. now I wish I could see whats is happening inside my dishwasher (when running), that thing sounds like a Sherman tank!!!

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xterrabill   commented 1mo+12dy ago


I think its funny, every one reads the post except the last 7 words. LOL I did, naaner naaner naaner :)- gotta love this community tho, so many willing to help. the spirit of Kompoz rocks!

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marshall2550   commented 1mo+12dy ago


I did!

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xterrabill   commented 1mo+12dy ago


opps figures, I did read your response and was proven so wrong! my apologies zombie dude! not that you would ask for one evah. I owe to you half my tone! geez im a moron! :))

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marshall2550   commented 1mo+12dy ago


No you are not!

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xterrabill   commented 1mo+12dy ago


ok, thanks :))

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YANNKIF   commented 1mo+10dy ago


I cover them with a piece of thick film plastic. Attention with the plastic, the ambient air, is wet and the differences of temperature, manufactures condensation, and always under the plasctic, prefer a tissues type micro fiber, to protect them from the dust, finally just my experience

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PolarBear   commented 1mo+8dy ago


Yes, .. the real culprit being too much humidity. It can get pretty sultry here, in the warmer parts of the year, like alot of places. Way too much for electronic gadgets. I've got to a point where I'm a humidophob .. :) .. running 2 dehumidifiers, besides the AC, in the house, during the summer.

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liljoe6string   commented 1mo+13dy ago


OK not sure where your at now.. but heres my thought.. most the time for something like that its not the cord, and most likely not the amp.. but the plug where your guitar goes in.. not sure if you tried this or anyones suggested it,, cause im a lazy reader.. but inside the gtr plug in is a metal "flap" that gets pushed aside and the end nests against the tip of your 1/4 inch jack play.. Open up the little plate where u plug in ... pull out the little connector and push the little metal piece "flap" forward toward the insert hole.. put it back to gether and plug in see if your problem remains.. ????

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PolarBear   commented 1mo+13dy ago


Joey, .. well, so far, so good. I played, mmm, a half hour after my "discovery", and there was a very clear & improved difference, all the time. But, you're right .. any connection can act up. I'm constantly disconnecting at the "in" receptacle on my amp. It's just a matter of time before that will go bad, or like you say, having to bend that tang for more pressure, as it was when it was new. Or, I do have some replacement jack parts, for that day, if it comes to that.

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liljoe6string   commented 1mo+12dy ago


coo

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liljoe6string   commented 1mo+12dy ago


hey Pbear> was talking about the guitar plug in jack > if yur like me the amp stays plugged in and i plug my gtr in over and over and over.. its the one in the gtr.. i usually have to mess with.. and do the flap bend.. tighten things up.. but could be the jack plug on the amp to.. If you havent dont that to the jack in the gtr... takes 5 mins cant hurt! lolol cheers

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PolarBear   commented 1mo+12dy ago


Joe .. actually, I'm disconnecting both the guitar & amp jacks, frequently. But, that's just me. My dust cootie, on the pot's stem seems to have been the main, if not the only problem.

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liljoe6string   commented 1mo+12dy ago


AWESOME!

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marshall2550   commented 1mo+13dy ago


Glad you got it figured out! Those pesky little noises can come from a lot of different places. A few years ago I had the exact same noise. It ended up being a power tube that was arcing. More recently I had an amp just go off like I flipped the switch. My initial thought was a fuse or power tubes. My brother was right by my amp when it went off so he quickly flipped the power switch. Which made me not realize the power just went off to the amp. It was good thinking on his part to kill the power fast but it made me do a lot of unneeded diagnosing. It ended up just being an old power cable that decided to fail.

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PolarBear   commented 1mo+13dy ago


Yeah, thanks .. thinking back, some weeks .. this short was a sneaky one, really. Very slight static, or muffling, at times .. and then this morning, .. it was much worse.

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liljoe6string   commented 1mo+12dy ago


its those china made pots!!

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speedbump   commented 1mo+12dy ago


May I suggest REPLACING your guitar input jack and the pickup selector switch. I don't know what brand or price point your guitar is, but across the board budget to mid priced guitar lines scrimp on parts to keep costs down. It's a cheap fix and well worth it. I mainly play a mid-priced ESP LTD EC-401VF. The guitar is a workhorse and plays great......BUT.....ESP scrimped on parts from the factory ( input jack, pickup selector switch and potentiometers ) to keep the price where it is. Their next line up is the EC-1000 line and it's the same guitar but with better electronics.........and it costs considerably more than my model. I replaced the aforementioned parts and had them installed a few years ago. It was cheap and a much needed improvement. I have no more shorts or volume loss.

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PolarBear   commented 1mo+12dy ago


Dave, I've got a Gibson Blueshawk. Not their top of line model, back then .. but, it was a Gibson, and I took the plunge. And, I've had other problems, with it. But, now that I've cleared up this problem .. I'm going to keep an eye on the selector switch. That said, .. I've never regretted getting this, .. the sound still seems pretty special, to me.

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speedbump   commented 1mo+12dy ago


I hear you. I've never played a Blueshawk but have seen them over the years. I grew up playing the Les Paul and still play that style guitar. I just bonded with the ESP line. I have an over the top gorgeous Carvin CS6 that's all maple, including the fingerboard, but my ESP just plays better. A lot of manufacturers ( including USA made ) use subpar parts like input jacks, pickup selectors and even potentiometers ( depending on the price point of that model ). I agree the USA made are ( overall ) higher quality, but just because a piece is made here doesn't automatically make it a superior build. The question was posed why I don't just go with USA made due to my "proclivities". Well, since I'm the customer and I try to be a insightful steward over my purchases, I'll first buy whatever FEELS right ( in terms of guitars ). The brand and origin come in a distant second. I've owned countless Les Paul over my lifetime. Some were great pieces while others sucked. Because of that, I don't blind-buy guitars anymore or stick to one manufacturer. I need to play it first then decide.

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PolarBear   commented 1mo+12dy ago


Yes, .. I would say that my approach to buying another guitar, would quite different versus the first one, that I bought. I certainly can't brag about this guitar's hardware, .. but it's pickup design - Blues P90's, (which I understand is not a true original P-90) hum cancelling dummy coil, varitone, (which I usually have disabled, now), etc., all which they diligently advertised, then, .. and they sold me.

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speedbump   commented 1mo+12dy ago


Understood. My problem with certain pickups is usually over inflated prices. There are alternatives for 1/3 the price ( or even less ) that are just as good.....yet players continue to swear by the same well known brands. Now, I use one of those brands ( DiMarzio ) because my guitar came stock with them and I've never had a problem with their humbuckers. They're good.....but there are others for a lot less that are just as good. Guitars need jacks, inputs and pots that are solid. They are unseen and usually not given much thought.....but they play an important role in performance and also sound quality. My approach to guitar buying has kept this in mind. I search for a guitar that feels good and specs out in the mid-price range......knowing I'll replace the "little things" at hardly any cost.....and greatly improve it on the spot.

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PolarBear   commented 1mo+12dy ago


Ah, there are different reasons & methods for what people end up choosing, aren't there? Hard to argue with your approach, .. but the vanity in me, fights this philosophy, all the same. Real example: I've got a Cort, something like this .. http://www.njaz.com/guitars/trg2.htm I've been meaning to haul this down to a Guitar Center, .. and do a comparison with a Gibson 335, someday. You know .. we're starting to sound like a couple of collectors, aren't we? .. :)

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xterrabill   commented 1mo+12dy ago


I think I mentioned this before, sorry if I have. a great place to pick up guitars are guitar shows, I used to frequent them. watch for kids walking in with cases, ask them what they have before they get to the tables. if you know your prices, its a great way to save a lot of money. I saved over 600 on 2 guitars easy, both in Mint/virtually unplayed condition. also its a great place to pick up parts sometimes.

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speedbump   commented 1mo+12dy ago


Sounds interesting. I can't recall ever being to a guitar show. I can see how they would be fun, plus advantageous if you're looking to pick up a deal.

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xterrabill   commented 1mo+12dy ago


some of the collector guitars I have seen at them have also been truly amazing. for instance 6 LP's actually owned by Duane Allman, 40k tele's, suhrs, ritters, ect. the coolest and the crappy, well worth checking out.

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raf   commented 1mo+10dy ago


All: There is some great content in the thread. Unfortunately, some of the comments were inappropriate and not befitting of this community. They have been removed. Please keep it civil.

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MakroBass   commented 1mo+10dy ago


Censorship???? What a joke of a site!

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raf   commented 1mo+10dy ago


As per our Terms of Use, racist comments have no place on this site. Kompoz reserves the right to remove content without notice, from Kompoz because it is harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, vulgar, obscene, hateful, pornographic, libelous or otherwise deemed, in the sole discretion of Kompoz, to be objectionable or incompatible with these Terms of Use and/or the goals of the Kompoz .

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MakroBass   commented 1mo+7dy ago


You allowed the post from Lil Joe to go on for days where there was true hatred being stated. This particular one had a few guys LOL over things and joking together. Then Atronut or whatever his name is came in and started proclaiming racism while NO ONE said anything about him because he hadn't even commented prior. He started any and all trouble on this post. If there was contention amongst the people it would have been well deserved to censor peoples comments but you had ONE GUY (Astronut) make his noise. And that there my friend is what is wrong with America! So you have gained one "nut" and lost at least 2 customers.....let them eat cake?? Good business, Really? I have always told other musicians about your site.....not any more! Let it rot in a Liberal cesspool!

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PaulM44   commented 1mo+7dy ago


Cool Mark, you've been on here since 2014 and nothing to show for it creation wise except the above. I would be angry too.

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MakroBass   commented 1mo+7dy ago


Look at anything Marshall2550 did! ...We worked together...He's my brother...why would I not?......Heard of Parmia on here? Listen to those Collaborations....MY BASS BROTHER! But I digress, you think you are smart.....I guess. LOL! How much money have you made this year in music?

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MikeJM   commented 1mo+7dy ago


As someone who has been here since 2014 and has joined more collaborations and helped more individual members than almost anyone here in that time span (since we're playing that game) . . . I stand up for Mike as well. Respecting people is fine, and from what I've heard the comment was in bad taste, but to call him racist and chase him off the site is a whole other thing. I'm completely nonpartisan. There is a lot of junk being said here on both sides. If you want I can give examples, all I have to do is a google search with certain keywords. I totally disagree with what has happened here. At a certain point you just have to say it.

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MikeJM   commented 1mo+7dy ago


That is not meant specifically at Paul, or anyone for that matter. Just heard about this, and feel like this needs to be said.

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MakroBass   commented 1mo+7dy ago


Mikes "bad taste" was calling HIS OWN GUITARS "a beaner and a jap" in reply to Speedbump, to get him to laugh and lighten up about the whole liljoe thread ( Mike was trying to keep that calm).....The Astronut guy jumped in where NO ONE was talking to or about him. Nothing was harmful towards him at all...A JOKE, AS I SAID BEFORE! The wrong people are quiting while the trouble makers stay.