All About Promotion and Income Generation

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Octorez / Kelly Miller 6mo+17dy ago
Usually I fly the Jolly Roger when it comes to music creations. I guess it comes down to ( how serious are you about your music ? ) When I think of how technology has allowed so many to create/produce music on a pro or semi pro level. I'm often left with the thought of how saturated the market must be, and is it even feasible to think about promotion and income generation. I used to think that I make music because I can, or because It is a part of who I am. Breaking free of the hobby mentality and taking it more seriously is the direction I seem to be headed in. Especially when you keep investing time and money into your craft. At what point do you say " this is no longer a hobby " ? Jim Bryan ( jimbass01 ) recently posted information about his future intentions surrounding this topic. It makes perfect sense to spend more time on a site that will generate income. Also I understand he will remain a kompoz member and still collaborate, understandably. I guess he is at the same crossroads as I am. It's funny because I used to think to myself.... Jim is the only bass player on kompoz or it appeared to me as so. With that said, my guess is that the amount of time he spent generating new friends and contributing to other projects has led him to his decision. Meaning.... he was at a max cruising altitude and wanted to go higher. I'm using Jim as an example of....How serious are you about your craft ? I've recently researched PRO's and sites like distrokid and others, in an effort to take music production more seriously and understand the business better. I am lowering the Skull and Bones flag, and no longer consider myself a musical pirate, but.... I plan on keeping my booty! Here is a link that I find informative. For those who also want to rise above the hobby status. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyKN9qaPmVnzayGc0uqMhsQ


   

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BergR   commented 1mo+12dy ago


distro kid is pretty good.

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rhythmicdevil   commented 1mo+12dy ago


I use Distrokid too. I'll definitely check out that link later today. I think for me the biggest impediment is time. I only have so much time to put into music and I feel like I need to use that time writing practising. Promotion is itself a full-time job.

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Treid   commented 1mo+12dy ago


I really enjoyed the opportunity to work with James `Jim` Bryan. Could you share the link to his post which you mentioned. For anyone who is interested in knowing more about him you can find him here - https://encoremusicians.com/James-Bryan

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minime   commented 1mo+12dy ago


A Spotify Artist page is maybe also just a Hobby with some hundred plays the month ? I look from time to time on some Artist pages on Spotify from Kompoz people and the better ones have maybe some hundred plays on there complete work but the most I see have less . I guess to get at minimum that back in what someone has pay to the distributor needs many many Years . Good luck with it and Thank you for this post because I am thinking right now about an investment in Music Distribution Companies . That Business that based on so many many peoples dreams looks very interesting . I am sure there is allot of cash going on with some serious calculation and all that other Business stuff .

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rhythmicdevil   commented 1mo+12dy ago


The biggest problem is promotion. Its the same problem that musicians have always had. In the old days you would get a distribution deal which put your records/CDs/tapes into stores, but without any promotion nobody would likely find your record and buy it. But its not just finding the record, the promotion process also legitimizes the artist in the eyes of the consumer.

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minime   commented 1mo+12dy ago


That s it ! Why not using the totally free Kompoz Shop or an own website with Download and pay options ! When the promotion is working good the place to download and purchase is uninteresting .

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rhythmicdevil   commented 1mo+12dy ago


I've never been able to crack the promotion side of the music business. Basically you need to throw money at it. Although that's useless without the proper packaging of the product.

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softie   commented 1mo+12dy ago


If I were trying to go pro I would put most of my energy into a kickass live show.

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minime   commented 1mo+12dy ago


Yep ! I would do it that way too if I would like to ! A kickass live show and I would perform naked !!! P.S. I look pretty good !

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rhythmicdevil   commented 1mo+12dy ago


Definitely play live shows, but I don't think that's the key to promotion. I think it comes down to online promotion campaigns to drive traffic to Spotify, or some streaming service like that. Playing live shows is only a local thing, unless you are touring. If you do an online campaign you can effectively reach the entire internet.

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Aces38   commented 1mo+12dy ago


I use Distrokid and I know several other people here on kompoz who do too. I think the things you would need to do to generate any real income would be to play a lot of live shows to create a fan base who would buy your stuff (music and merch) and get someone to promote you... someone you hire, a label, something... I worked with Jim on a bunch of tracks... he's a wonderful bass player, talented and easy to work with... and there are lots of other great bass players here too... in fact the level of talent across the board here is really kinda crazy... including people who have had or do have careers in music but still choose to hang out here and have fun... other direction of what you're thinking about. Speaking of promotion, one other thing I've been meaning to post is that people with stuff on Spotify should make a pact to add each other's tracks to their playlists. Even people who don't put music on Spotify but just listen to it could make kompoz playlists. If we each have a playlist of kompoz tunes, that could push Spotify's algorithms to pay attention and maybe add us to other playlists... we could create a thread where people post the urls to their tracks.... just a thought.

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minime   commented 1mo+12dy ago


I am on Spotify as music listener and music lover . That is cool . I have a Premium Spotify and I support with it directly millions of musicians ,the industry ,the writer ,the composer ,the studios and all that people for just 9.99 a month. This is called Appreciation :-)))))))))) NOTE ! As a listener I hope that they add one day soon this Hifi thingy with High Resolution streaming . For the same Price why not . Otherwise there are others who do it for the same price more or less . More bang for the buck so to say .

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xd238   commented 1mo+11dy ago


Apple Music streaming is the same price of $9.99 and it has "lossless" audio...now, the owner of the platform says he can't hear the difference, but I can?? https://www.musicradar.com/news/apple-music-lossless-audio-dolby-atmos-difference

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minime   commented 1mo+11dy ago


Yes and Amazon has this too and it is also around that price . The Streaming Quality is good on Spotify but I can hear a difference too when I compare it to CD or High Resolution . But for me it is so that I want the best Quality when I want really listen . When I just have the music on so by the way then I do not care that much . When I listen so by the way I listen also other music as when I listen really.

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xd238   commented 1mo+11dy ago


Personally, having worked in the 90's for a now defunct label and being pretty close to a scene, my eyes are a little more open than the average. I do not plan spend anything on distribution, but still have stuff distributed out to the major services and/or Bandcamp. The options are out there, if you are willing to give away some percentage of royalties. And I say...WHAT royalties?? its like $.01/stream, at best. Back in the day when CD's were pressed, things were much different, but still daunting. Like a distributor declaring bankruptcy and changing their corporate name after they just received 10,000 units of a CD sure to sell(and did +)....this actually happened right in front of me in realtime. but I digress