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GibsonGoldtop / RSRobynes _ 5yr+5mo ago
Hello there Kompoz Community! First time contributor here. Just so we're on the same page, quick background: I am not particularly technical so any question that i have will be to fill that void. Also, I am needing to upgrade, well, everything, in terms of my home setup and wanna us that as a conversational anchor. My first question: I have been reading about DI boxes on the wild west of the interwebz and came across an interesting opinion that I want to bounce off the community. Do you guys use a DI box before your audio interfaces to balance the signal? Assuming you are plugging directly into something like BIAS desktop. I understand my audio interface takes care of that, but also wonder if a nicer unit dedicated to that function circumvents potentially cheap components inherit to, say something like, GuitarPort, etc.. Also, am even thinking of using real pedals before the audio interface if that influences your answer. I'm looking to cultivate a sound that's better than "good enough," yet one that obviously won't break the bank.


   

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sriracha   commented 5yr+5mo ago


I've talked to a bunch of people who swear by the DI before the interface. I did it for a while, now do direct into the interface: I can't really see a difference. I know the PRS people are high on this, but of course, they sell a DI box, lol. Bias also has a feature to auto level where you play thru your interface and they will coach you to set the level where they think it's optimal. I was more concerned with latency and so decided to just adjust the levels by hand as needed going into the interface.

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marshall2550   commented 5yr+5mo ago


I agree with Bill here. I have a DI box and I just plug into the interface. I was told by a sweetwater guitar sales rep that unless your interface is cheap junk it doesn't make a difference. I had a similar question a while back but mine was more about feel than sound or tone. I personally don't hear or feel a difference. I use a decent Focusrite interface (Saffire Pro 24 DSP ).

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GibsonGoldtop   commented 5yr+5mo ago


Anything in particular that that drew you to the Focusrite interface? I've been using a GuitarPort that's ancient at this point (not married to any of the tones) and fear that the drivers that they no longer update will brick it whenever I update anything on my machine.

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marshall2550   commented 5yr+5mo ago


I had a Focusrite preamp in the past that used the same mic pres and I thought they sounded good. Also, the 24/96 specs appealed to me compared to other units in the same price range. I also have the one that has the built in VRM "virtual reference monitoring" thing. That part is ok but not really worth the extra cash. It also has an adat input which will allow other adat equipped preamps to be linked to it. Funny that I am bringing that up because I find myself recently needing some more inputs so that will help out!

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marshall2550   commented 5yr+5mo ago


Oh, forgot to mention a BIG reason! Firewire! USB is just too slow.

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sriracha   commented 5yr+5mo ago


I will say that USB3 is fine as long as your OS and DAW handle latency well. I use both firewire and USB and really don't find any problem's, but I'm using a mac and logic and as you may expect, they are tuned for this stuff. I'm blissfully ignorant of windows options...

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GibsonGoldtop   commented 5yr+5mo ago


I am starting to think it's something I can do without initially and experiment with later if I feel the need.

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Hotjams   commented 5yr+5mo ago


wont break the bank....LMAO. sorry, couldn't help myself. Good luck with that one. I don't think there is a one way is the correct way. You need to figure out what works for you. I usally record right into the interface however, there have been some cases where I needed a DI box and even an attenuator. Pre amps can help as well, but I would rather go direct into the interface is I can.

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KyouLine   commented 5yr+5mo ago


I'm currently using a POD as my interface. I can come in to the computer with a clean dry signal or use any of it's tones before going to the computer. I usually record clean then add the effects in either Guitar Rig or Amplitube

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GibsonGoldtop   commented 5yr+5mo ago


If you add your effects after the fact, do you fear having your tone goodness in the hands of software that may or may not be around, or the same, at a later date?

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KyouLine   commented 5yr+5mo ago


No, because by then if I still have the clean signal I can add a new and improved effect..

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spawn2031   commented 5yr+5mo ago


I currently also use a Pod HD. No issues at all with that thing depending on your price range. I have used both a toneport (entry level for about $100) and the HD ($500ish) and both have worked great. Toneport is great for a quick interface with a decent amount of amp models. HD is just more of a stage version with a ton more stuff. Just kind of depends on what you want to do. I know many other people use stuff like a Presonus audio box which is nothing more than an interface that works via usb. They play clean and add everything after the fact through their DAW. A ton of ways to go.

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GibsonGoldtop   commented 5yr+5mo ago


I have to say, you guys have made my first community contribution a good one. Thanks for the replies. Anyone have any insight/experience with any of the Universal Audio products?

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Hotjams   commented 5yr+5mo ago


Not yet but I'm seriously considering the Appollo Twin dual....and yes, UAD plugs will break your bank, bank on it. nyuck.

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GibsonGoldtop   commented 5yr+5mo ago


I know but I am seriously feeling the tractor beam pull of the Apollo Twin now that essentially I have a blank slate to build upon. And yes, I try not to think about the $ aspect of it too hard. ;) I wonder if they are going to reduce its price since Apple just nuked the Thunderbolt port from their new machines going forward.

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Hotjams   commented 5yr+5mo ago


Naw...Thunderbolt will be around for a while. And, I'm sure you will be able to buy an adapter to USB-C if needed. I guess Thunderbolt 2 and 3 are pretty lame at this point. And, yes, maybe Apollo Twins will fall in price, but I wouldn't count on it.

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AudioAgenda   commented 5yr+5mo ago


UAD plugins are good but very expensive too! And to be honest expensive plugins don't make you a good engineer, it's not what you use it's how you use it that count. To be honest my fav company in the plugin world are Fabfilter. If you want to get some top draw plugins that won't break the bank go for them. You can get the whole suite and it won't break the bank. :))

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dogbizkits   commented 5yr+5mo ago


I have to agree with Chris about "how you use" the plugins. Once you find the plugins that 'do' what you want them to do and understand how they work, mix sonics improve. I'm a fan of the Brainworx plugins and owned quite a number of them before they started collaborating with UA. They obviously (to my ears) know what they're doing because I also own a large amount of UAD2 plugins and my arsenal of both keep growing. Alongside these, I use the Solid State Logic Duende AAX plugins which are stunningly good. Finding the 'right' plugins comes from a lot of evaluations and test mixes.