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AlexEOB / Alex O'Brien 2mo+27dy ago
Hello Everyone, I'm a recent member and this is my first post. As a lyricist, what is the best way to start a collaboration for a lyric of mine? Also, as a lyricist, do I need to have a DAW installed or will I be using the DAWs of the musicians who compose the music to the words? Thanks, Alex


   

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davkoeh77   commented 2mo+27dy ago


Hi Alex, the immediate answer is to click on "Start Collaboration" and the site kind of leads you through the basic steps. You do not need to have a DAW if you are strictly a lyricist, but it can be helpful to download and listen to contributions to your projects. When you post your lyric it definitely helps to add a picture and of course the title to get the mood and some context across to prospective collaborators. Also, if you are posting just a lyric, it can be helpful to put the title and then put "lyric only" in parentheses next to it. That helps others who may be looking for projects that contain only a lyric so they can build the entire musical composition around the lyric. Many here like to do that. You can specify that in the dashboard also, but when people are quickly browsing through a title with (lyric only) will stand out. Welcome to Kompoz - good luck!

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AlexEOB   commented 2mo+27dy ago


Hi David, Thanks for your quick reply and helpful info! It's just what I need to get started. I look forward to listening to your work and those of others on the site. Cheers!

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elizabethauzan   commented 2mo+26dy ago


Hi Alex, Welcome! Agree with Dave, you don't actually need a DAW but I bought a PreSonus Studio One pack and I can just about download tracks and potentially do a rough guide vocal..... You can also choose tracks "looking for lyrics" in the "collaborations" thumbnail to see if there is a track which would potentially fit your lyric. Enjoy!

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AlexEOB   commented 2mo+15dy ago


Thanks, Elizabeth! Your comments are very helpful. I look forward to learning more and hearing what everyone is working on. All the Best, Alex

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elizabethauzan   commented 2mo+15dy ago


^_^

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BraddersBass   commented 1mo+23dy ago


Hi Alex Any updates? I agree with all stated below but remember buying a DAW will also require an audiocard/i/f and headphones which you will invest in anyway I guess. No great expense but additional costs on top. Elizabeth mentioned StudioOne and this is a very intuitive platform if your not familiar with DAW technology. I have used it for 7 years taking the updates a they are available at a cost also. Having a DAW will allow you to review tacks and mix's and stems etc. Let us know how things are progressing and if you're are ready to work on a new project. David

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AlexEOB   commented 1mo+23dy ago


Hi David, Thanks for your message. I've installed the free version of Presonus Studio One but I haven't used it yet. I also posted my first 'lyric only' collaboration a couple weeks ago and it's still in progress. PJ Lucidi has composed wonderful blues music and laid down very nice guitar work. We are still awaiting drums and bass. Cheers, Alex

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sdaddyo   commented 1mo+23dy ago


I use the free version of Audacity. A friend bought me a condenser mic that plugs into a usb port & I have a set of ear buds.

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MammaRainbow   commented 1mo+23dy ago


I used to use Audacity until I learned that it uses destructive editing. Every time you use an effect or filter on an audio file it gradually degrades the original recording. I agree with Elizabeth and for me Presonus Studio One is the way to go. I've been using the free version for a few years now and am pretty happy with it for recording vocals

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BraddersBass   commented 1mo+23dy ago


Free version ??

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MammaRainbow   commented 1mo+23dy ago


Yes, so download the free Prime 5 Version https://shop.presonus.com/Studio-One-5-Prime (don't click on the join sphere thing) Go through the install then at the end choose "Run Studio One Prime - the limited free version" . Poof, free version that doesn't suck or stop working.

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AlexEOB   commented 1mo+23dy ago


Thanks, Tracy. I downloaded a free version of Presonus Studio One.

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AlexEOB   commented 1mo+23dy ago


If I remember correctly, I used Audacity for a Coursera songwriting course with Berklee many years ago.

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Midipunk   commented 1mo+23dy ago


Hey Alex all you need is a web browser for submitting lyrics, speakers/headphones would be good for contributing to existing songs so you could test the phrasing. Unless you want to belt out example vocals the DAW software and microphone expense is an unnecessary kick in the pants.

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AlexEOB   commented 1mo+23dy ago


Thanks, Pete. I've been wondering when I might need to use the DAW as a lyricist. I figured I wouldn't have to often, so I picked up the free version so it's there if I have to use it. I don't need the DAW to post lyrics, and I can listen to the song as it comes along on the files others submit. Where else would I have to use a DAW (given that I don't play any instruments or sing)? I imagine if I wanted to mix or engineer my own projects I would need it. Or if I want to download what is created? Thanks, Alex

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MikeJM   commented 1mo+23dy ago


First of all, WELCOME! :) In the words of my great lyricist friend here joel_sattlersongs - "Kompoz is an all-you-can-eat buffet for lyricists." Many here have given great advice. I have made hundreds of songs here with just Google Docs and no DAW. Heck, you can even upload .txt files, so why not dumb it down even more and use notepad? lol The point I'm making is that this site is truly amazing for us word folks, we give a lot of heart and soul for sure, but there are people here that accept us as equal collaborators who are using complicated DAWs, a fortune worth of musical equipment, and home studios. This is a great place to be a lyricist, and if you upload to other's collaborations and build a network, you'll be in-demand and living the Kompoz dream in no time! So yes, that is not actually a part of the site that you asked about, but do bear and mind the site is based on a give-and-take system. Okay, sometimes really talented folks get to bypass that, but usually that's the case. Best of luck! Just get your words out there however you can. To be sure to upload a file version (in any supported format) and upload a collaboration picture, however, because it makes your project more attractive to potential collaborators. If the image is blank and it says "no files uploaded yet" even if you did post the lyrics in the description, people might just pass on by. Now, about the DAW, I only ever use a free Audacity when I am recording cringey and terrible-sounding melody demonstrations for a singer confused on how to sing my words. People will ask for that, so be ready. If you're not comfortable singing out your words, or have a sense of shame unlike me (I love to embarrass myself lol), you can just decline or say you can't, most people don't need it anyways, just a few. I am so excited to have another wordsmith to join the club! I'm the de-facto manager of the club because everyone else busy, you know, actually being productive and talented writers lol - okay, I'm just kidding, but seriously, hit me up if you ever need help, support, co-writing, or someone to talk to. We're a small band, us lyricists here, but we stick together. :) Looking forward to the hits you're going to write!

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liljoe6string   commented 1mo+23dy ago


+1

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AlexEOB   commented 1mo+23dy ago


Hi Mike, Thanks for your helpful message and warm welcome! I look forward to reading and listening to your work. I also look forward to participating in projects where I think I can be of value. All the Best, Alex