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Redfish / Tony Gee 14 days ago
Does anyone have any experience with CLA plugins? Are they any good? When/How are they useful? Are they worthwhile the effort?


   

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javierpg84   commented 14 days ago


I have worked extensively with the CLA plugins. You have two types of CLA concepts: The signature plugins and the CLA devices. I use a lot the devices or simulators of outboard gears specially the CLA 76 CLA 2A and CLA 3A as compressors. The CLA mix hub is a new one and is great if you need SSL eq curves and compressor sound for tracks. Now the signature plugins are a different beast. They give you a one-stop, black box sonic enhancer type of thing. Is very very easy to over use them and end up with a wacked sound. Is not a plugin fault, is the user getting over excited. Which ones are you planning to buy? I can tell you more based on the specific ones and based on what you want to accomplish with them. Regards

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BergR   commented 12 days ago


I do, they came bundled with some other stuff- I got suckered on a sale- I think the big one kicks off very soon...i got heaps of waves plugins- so Lucky me, I have a lot of choices. I'd maybe go other things first- or see of they come in a bunndle- the scheps channel strip has been really useful along with the ssl stuff and the API ones. Lot of em seem like the same thing with a different front on the hood. Recently, I was in a studio with some of the real hardware versions- I'll keep drooling in my dreams hope that helps

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RobAsh15   commented 7 days ago


I have several of the plug ins licensed under CLA's name for Waves. The only one I really use is the guitar tone sweetener plug in. It essentially works like a frequency "booster/enhancer"... where the different controls effect different areas of the tone curve, if that makes any sense. If you lay down a solid track with the tone close to where you want, but lacking a little in punch, the plug in helps in adding that missing "pizazz" to make it sizzle in the mix. I use Guitar Rig and Amplitube to get my tones for guitar, and occasionally the tone sounds good when I pick it, but is a little lifeless later in the fuller mix. The CLA plug in adds back the missing heat and drive the track needs to sound really good. As with all such things, less is more, as they say. It's really easy to use too much of a plug in, and too many plug ins. Just sayin'... The same suite of CLA plug ins (I bought them on sale a few years back, all at once) has one for voice, bass, drums, etc. Even pianos/synths/keys... but like I said, the guitar one is the only one I've ever used enough to be really familiar with.

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Redfish   commented 6 days ago


The reason I was asking is that the CSA Echoshere plugin is free for Black Friday ...... is it worth the effort? https://www.waves.com/lpn/black-friday-2020/free-plugin?utm_source=wnletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=black-friday-nl2-fri-cla-release-2020

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javierpg84   commented 6 days ago


You will get a free slap delay and a reverb plate in just one plug in. Get it. Nothing beats free.

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Redfish   commented 6 days ago


thanks Javier ...... I might just do that .... and hopefully the link works for others if they want to have it too

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BergR   commented 6 days ago


Grab the free stuff.

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jannik   commented 6 days ago


The CLA stuff is good no doubt about that. Just remember that you're also paying a premium for his name on the plugin as there are cheaper plugins which do the same (at least when it comes to channel strips and compressors). But these ones he has vetted himself. The CLA instrument targeted processing plugs are, in terms of fx, based around the outboard gear he uses: Lexicon 480L, Sony DRE 2000, Bricasti M7, EMT 246, Yamaha Rev 1, Eventide 3000, AMS RMX16, Marshall Tape AR-300 Eliminator, Line 6 Echo Pro, Lexicon PCM 42, URSA Major Spacestation. He has a ton of other gear of course and the selection does change over time but these are his goto. You might be able to find some plugin emulations of these online and I can give you IRs of some of the reverbs that you can use in Logic if you're interested? :)

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Redfish   commented 6 days ago


sure thing ... thanks Jannik

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jannik   commented 6 days ago


I'll assemble a package for you on the weekend with the best-of-my-knowledge presets he's using. You'll have some control over these reverbs using Logics Space Designer plugin but it will be limited to the preset that it's based on :)

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jannik   commented 5 days ago


I just tried out the free Echosphere from Waves: It's really good!

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snabbu   commented 5 days ago


I have a suite of CLA production chains drums bass vocal guitar unplugged and effects. After track preparation with subtractive EQ compression and tuning. I use nothing else on my mixes. Cheers Gary