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flaviobrandao / Flavio Brandao 1mo+20dy ago
hello I have a question! I have mixed this song, everything is sounds kind of okay but when I try to listen in a JBL Go the guitar is mute. I can hear drums, vocals and some of the bass but no guitar. Suggestions? Thanks in advance. PS: the JBL Go freq is 180~20k


   

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sriracha   commented 1mo+20dy ago


Well, the only thing I can think of is perhaps the way the JBL combines the stereo image to a single speaker output is causing cancellation. Do you have any spatial effects on the guitar? Is it all guitar, or just lead or rhythm? Sounds fine on my iphone. I'll try my Bose Soundlink Revolve later.

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flaviobrandao   commented 1mo+20dy ago


Only on rhythm guitars, leads are ok. Also, Rhythm are paned full left and full right

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sriracha   commented 1mo+20dy ago


Is the rhythm guitar track actually doubled, or the same guitar track with like a delay or something panned?

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flaviobrandao   commented 1mo+20dy ago


double

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FarSounds   commented 1mo+20dy ago


It is phase cancelation I guess. The quick solution is to reverse the polarity of one of the guitars. Some plugins for example Neutron 3 or Waves InPhase can do this with one button

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sriracha   commented 1mo+20dy ago


Most DAWS also have native plugins that can do this as well - you may have to dig around to find them, but Logic does, for example, in it's Gain plugin.

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sriracha   commented 1mo+20dy ago


Btw this seems Fine on everything I've tried it on so far. I suspect it's the JBL thing.

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WillaWay   commented 1mo+20dy ago


Same. I've listened on multiple speakers. I'm not hearing the issue described.

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MechanicalCreep   commented 1mo+19dy ago


I'm definitely hearing the problem when I listen to this through mono, where the rhythm guitars do drop. I would try the polarity reversal others have mentioned. Otherwise maybe don't pan the guitars quite as hard to the sides. Check the mix back and forth in mono and stereo and find a reasonable compromise.

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liljoe6string   commented 1mo+19dy ago


Fantastic song btw... super playing and vocals.... As to missing rythm, thats the weirdest thing??? its always fking something with the tech sht... not sure what settings are available on the Go.. could be a that.. but the best suggestion ive seen, if applicable, is try reducing the R L pan extremes.. degree by degree to see if you hit a point that corrects the freak show missing rythm. I know it sucks cause you set it where u like it.. and as u move toward center you will prob have to lower the DB of each...to get ruffly the same mix value.. let us know what u find out..

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minime   commented 1mo+19dy ago


Mechanical Creep mentioned Mono ! Is your JBL Go the one in Grey ? I had a look and this thingy is Mono ! If so - this plus the thing that deeper frequencies are maybe a problem for that little device too could be the thing ! Eventually !!!

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Mahzin   commented 1mo+10dy ago


Checked with Mixbus v7 in mono and in stereo. Stereo I perceive, mono very very very few. And your equipment comparing with studio monitors has less extension, very few in comparison, the reason. Yes, it's cancelling.

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JBrancik   commented 30 days ago


Your guitars may be out of phase. Check your mix in mono. If it's cancelled then you know the left and right is out of phase.

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MechanicalCreep   commented 30 days ago


I don't know if this is your song or if you are mixing for someone else, but if you can get a 3rd take of the guitar part, you can have one take panned center and the other two panned hard left and right. This will help you to keep enough info to make it the guitar part sound present in mono but keep the wide effect. This is assuming you've tried adjusting the phase - but to be honest, if the tracks are two separate performances, this is likely not the issue - unless you have some kind of ambience plugin that might be adding sound with a phase difference between left and right, like some stereo reverbs or delays.

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rwl6935   commented 10 days ago


If you?re summing to a common buss and are using a stereo widening plugin your issue may lie there. Sounds fine on my phone. Does your jbl go have simulated surround?

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liljoe6string   commented 10 days ago


Dude posted this issue over a month ago and hasn't been back since.. lol might have burned his jbl's

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rwl6935   commented 10 days ago


Haha… could be