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TheRealmRecordings / Aaron Lehnen 2yr+7mo ago
Hello everyone, I wanted to share a track off of one of my commercially released albums and get your Mixing/Mastering thoughts or any other relevant critiques. I will be Recording a follow up to this album early next year and would love to incorporate any advice/Tips/Tricks. (My other post got taken down probably cuz of Bandcamp link) So here is a YouTube link to a playlist. Feel free to evaluate any of the songs, but Once is probably the best Produced so that's the one I would prefer and will share. Thank you ahead of time.


   

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sriracha   commented 2yr+7mo ago


fwiw, the bandcamp link should not have impacted your post - people post those links all the time here. Welcome - I'm sure you will get feedback soon!

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TheRealmRecordings   commented 2yr+7mo ago


Thanks man, first time posting, perhaps I just messed up categorizing it. Sometimes posting while running out the door so, not always paying attention to all the small details. But thanks, now I know I can. Hope you got to at least check it out and enjoyed it.

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B4Lasers   commented 2yr+7mo ago


i like this i like it a lot but the drum could punch much more they seem distant from the track they don't feel solid. drums should be strong like bull lol...also i feel like the vocal recording was taken seriously. not as in the recording it self you or whoever is singing sounds wonderful but it sound like the equipment uses of the mixing wasn't up to par. finally the bridge didn't feel right to me the chords of everything didn't match so well. but hey experimentation is key. but the guitar solo shhhhhh man. fuego the concept of this track was fuego but you asked for honesty :) if you ever have a song you want mixed id love to help :D

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TheRealmRecordings   commented 2yr+7mo ago


Haha, thanks for the input man. It was I, Performing all instruments and vocals and also Mixing/Producing. I wrote and performed/recorded all of it. Glad you liked most of it. Not sure which bridge, your talking about in this song, there is only the Verse, Pre-chorus, and Chorus. Perhaps it is the chorus you are referring to, it modulates to the relative (G) major from (E) minor which is a typical sonwriting technique or choice. Thank you for your input though I wish it would of been a little more technical and specific like how to get those punchy sounds you want it to have like enhancing 80-100 hz on kick or what not. In My monitors its actually a little bass heavy, but maybe mine aren't as flat as they should be. Thanks though, for your opinion bro, glad at least someone checked it out and left some kind of feedback.

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fresh727   commented 2yr+7mo ago


Personally, I might give a go at a "radio mix" for this tune. Get yourself in and out somewhere around the 3:30 mark and see how you feel about it. While Cory is suggesting experimentation for this track, I say "cookie cutter" it...verse, chorus, verse, chorus, that really nice solo, chorus (one or double) and out. Here is one such idea for a radio edit keep all of 0:00-2:58 then edit out everything until 3:43 then roll on until 4:10 and fade out. You are in and out under 3:30. Just a thought! Nice work and welcome! Thanks for sharing...

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liljoe6string   commented 2yr+7mo ago


great minds.. just wrote to target 4mins... top end..

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TheRealmRecordings   commented 2yr+7mo ago


Thanks bro for your advice, and good idea on Radio edit. I always have a hard time writing short songs, so much I like to do/say. My background is in more lengthy Compositions and Prog/Tech scenes ala Dream Theater, Animals As Leaders, The Contortionist, etc. But also have a huge love for Reggae, Latin, and Carribean music mixed with rock/Alternative.

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liljoe6string   commented 2yr+7mo ago


hey u got alot of talent... words r good/ vox hav a nice etheral human vibe.. as for the song... mix is pretty hip.. to me,, i like the drums sittin back... but snare could be up a smidge.. I think the front end of the song is DOPE... then it hits 1:51.. very ingenius.. but doesnt quite work.. Takes the song from this hip LSD carpet ride.. and throws the listener right off the carpet.. Solo gtr~ workz.. but then it carries on to long. and really takes away from the vox...a groove.. big time.... I would yank it.. after the solo section.. or mix it down... beneath the vox... synth at 421 is great... should ride that out... the lead guitar does not add to the vibe... If u go straight to the solo.. and skip the 151 section.. then Just vox.. through to the ambient synth.. and fade that thru... would be a better song.. and a more desirable length.. 4mins a good target... (now at 420 thts some decent open space if your gonna bring the lead back in for short spot.... ) If you had an ace lead gtr player on board..might be worth considering..having more solo wrk... but it would have to be perfect to improve the value.. Having said that, i realize yur doing this as a solo performer.. but if yur open to some feat players.. might advertize here.. I would take a swing on a section.. if yur up for it.. gl... again great work.. just my .o3

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TheRealmRecordings   commented 2yr+7mo ago


Thanks bro for a nice detailed opinion. I still feel like I am getting more songwriter/arrangement preferences as opposed to the more scientific Mixing/Recording specifics I'm after. Though you did mention a few and I thank you for that. I feel I should perhaps explain myself better. This is my more commercial release meaning it was intended for digestibility, but my wheelhouse is more Technical Metal/Prog and (if need be) I can shred on the Guitar. This piece in particular, I really strayed away from what I can typically do. If you listen to the other tracks on the record there are some other solos that do different things but all fit the style. Here is a project of something a bit different if you were interested in my Guitar Chops most of these pieces were tracked with 8-String Guitar all songs being fairly lengthy but so worth it in my humble opinion. Please leave a link to yours as well and thank you again for your advice. https://soundcloud.com/alteredevolutions

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liljoe6string   commented 2yr+7mo ago


I got cha~ your creating a more commercial set of songs... coo that u can create a wide range of music.. As for the suggestion in the structural end... and your commercial quest... they really go hand in hand.. Most commercial songs do not run this long.. esp at this BPM... hence the suggestion of forgoing the trasition part.. though i will say... the re-enter is very hip.. CK'd out your heavier stuff... its good.. u do real well n that genre.. tight n technical.. Def your wheel house.. heres a project in that same bpm zone... this is not a final mix just my play thru audition. They added vox later... https://www.kompoz.com/music/collaboration/781468/file/781814

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insub   commented 2yr+7mo ago


I think you have a great song here with a decent master but not so great of a mix. IMO, the mix is a mess. The effects are to the point of distracting. So much so, that it was hard for me to identify what instrument to follow while listening. I understand that the genre is meant to be psychedelic, but the effects were pushed too far even for the genre, IMO. I read in an interview article that any mix should highlight no more than 3 elements at any time, and I think that is excellent mixing advice. Particularly, in the chorus the music becomes a wash of delays and overlapping sounds that become incomprehensible. I do like how later on you draw the body out of the reggae guitar and push it back in the mix. I think that the vocal is too bright and lacking low-mid body. The reggae guitar is colliding with the phasor pad and overpowering the vocal, especially on small speakers (like laptops speakers). I think I would have gave the vocal a little more low-mid and took some of that away from the guitar and pad sound. Exactly the opposite of the current mix Speaking of small speakers... The kick is lacking enough snap to be present on small speakers and the bass could use a little distortion or higher frequency content to be more present in that medium. I hope that I've not offended you. I'm just trying to share my honest opinion. And, it's of course just that... an opinion. Best of luck! And, I hope my opinion helps in some small way.

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puzzlevortex   commented 2yr+6mo ago


i think the vocals sound a little too thin and buried. i do like the ambience of the track tho. I would try maybe adding some bass frequencies back into the vocals, and maybe reducing some bass frequencies in the guitars and panning the guitars more hard left and right, so you can have a little more room for the vocals. ;) good luck