Sound Engineering & Recording

802 members

PLUS
ValShal / Alfonso PeNa 2mo+20dy ago
Hi everyone!!! I need your help!! You use reverb when you record vocals for the singer can hear his voice more similar to the final result. Do you think this is a good practice?


   

2 people like this: kman, Moonrunner

Comments

Login to Comment
comment.user.userName

insub   commented 2mo+20dy ago


It's very common to record vocalists in a way that they can hear the reverb or delay but where it does not get recorded in. In other words, the recording itself is dry even though the vocalist hears the effects while singing. In Reaper, this is done via monitoring FX. Some audio interfaces also have such a feature built in. Generally, the method is used to inspire confidence in the vocalists performance. Often it can help their pitch because the pitch they're singing is being extended in time allowing them to hear it better and adjust on the fly. I would not recommend recording the reverb/delay effects into the audio file. If you don't have a way to use monitor fx, you could record a take with reverb, then record additional takes dry while listening back to the wet take. In regards to Kompoz seps. Vocalists should upload both a wet & dry take. The wet take can have all kinds of fx to show the other collaborators what sound they have in mind. But the mixing engineer will probably need the dry version for mixing later.

comment.user.userName PREMIER

kman   commented 2mo+20dy ago


Very good explanation! Yet I didn't think that far. I mean to request two seps (dry+wet) from a singer but this absolutely makes sense! :))

comment.user.userName PLUS

liljoe6string   commented 2mo+20dy ago


insub nailed it.. the only exception to the best practice of requiring a dry sep.. for mixer options.. is someone who knows how to get a perfect verb.. and delay.. ergo using BPM to set the time element and of coarse not sounding like their in an empty drinking well.. lololol CASE in point forever i could only provide a wet sep... hated my vst fx's and wanted to kill myself thinkin about recording dry...so i used on the way in fx> but out of many 100's of seps I think i had ONE rejected for no dry sep available. This was because(1 my solos rule) LOLO (2) i had the fx set to bpm & (3) i was never over board with wetness.. I did have a few that thought it was a lil to wet .. i dropped a tight noise gate on and they passed.. but now i found a vst for delay i luv and for a lil while have been shipping dry or wet mixers choice.. PSS those days are gone.. had a hard drive crash i currently in recover mode.. ))):

comment.user.userName PLUS

ShannonB   commented 2mo+20dy ago


I was getting jealous until you said your hard drive crashed. :( You guys have sooo much experience. I'm never going to learn it all!

comment.user.userName PREMIER

kman   commented 2mo+20dy ago


Unless he is an IT expert he has a backup :)) I think we spend a lot of time with these machines. When I started I had to read the manuals. Today there millions of great explanatory videos out there at youtube :)

comment.user.userName PLUS

ValShal   commented 2mo+20dy ago


Very thanks insub!!!

comment.user.userName

aliceminguez   commented 2mo+20dy ago


Ask your vocalist what they prefer (dry vs. monitoring fx, I mean -- I wouldn't recommend recording the fx on top of the performance; better to add those afterward!)...you'll get a better performance if they are happy & comfortable :)

comment.user.userName

zenduder   commented 1mo+14dy ago


just my opinion but a lot of engineers prefer to record vocals dry, and then add reverb afterwards either inside the box or even re tracked with outboard gear. The reason a lot of people like myself like to track vocals dry is that it simply gives more flexibility during post processing. If the artist likes to hear some reverb in his headphones then you do that while tracking but keep the track dry. A lot of times I will use no reverb on a voice and instead use other techniques then a little over the whole mix in mastering. Sometimes. Just my two cents. Zen Duder

comment.user.userName PRO

tbase2000   commented 1mo+13dy ago


Besides reverb and delay, I'm not against processors in the recording chain. Outboard gear if you have it. Think of a hot silky female vocal...a good mic with a nice preamp and some compession will allow her to hear the detail of her take and control her close-mic delivery. A studio recording is going to use their outboard gear.

comment.user.userName

drycamplaptop   commented 1mo+13dy ago


If you know and are committed to a certain sound, and you've got it. I see no reason to try to recreate that in a DAW.